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  1. Redhelen

    Redhelen Well-Known Member

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    Stendel.has already proved he can do it.
     
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    Wich is equivalent to what League in England? I don’t know anything about Irish football
     
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    Same people calling for League One experience and denigrating anything else are the ones most likely to refer to it as the alehouse league.
     
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    Absolutely 100% exactly. It's the same skill set.
     
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    And yet in, I think, the last two seasons LOI teams have progressed to the group stages of the conference league.
     
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    Bottom of league two/top of national league standard. Anybody who thinks managing a team is a totally transferable skill across all levels is borderline delusional. This guy managers in a semi-pro backwater, totally out of his depth.
     
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    30%. Champions into CL qualifiers, and next two into the UEFA Conference League. Cup winners also get a European place, which can mean 4th in the league is enough some seasons. However, Derry did finish second last season. Anyway, it looks like it's not going to be Higgins, so all of this discussion is slightly moot.
     
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    Everyone starts somewhere.

    It's the age old issue of 'must have experience' - but until someone gives you the chance how do you get that experience? He might come here and flop, returning to Ireland with his tail between his legs. Alternatively, he might take us to the Play Off Final before jumping ship to a bigger club in Wales that's nearer to Derry.

    If we don't take the chance we'll never know.
     
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    Plenty of managers come from non-league/lower leagues/foreign leagues and go on to craft a career at a much higher level than League One. Until you are given a chance you can’t prove what you can do.
    But a UEFA A licence coaching qual includes the same content wherever you work. What you are saying is equivalent to saying a PE teacher who has worked at Eton is somehow automatically a better PE teacher than one who worked at Watch Comp.
     
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    What? Like tactics? Defensive organisation? Fitness etc? All presumably covered by coaching badges.
    Man management and motivation. Are players at National League level different human beings to those in League One?
    Of course the skills are transferrable.
     
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    Actually, as a second response to this - does the same apply to players? Lower League players never able to step up and improve? Too many examples where players have developed and gone on to better things.
     
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    If you’re going to criticise someone else’s spelling, the least you could do is check your own.
     
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    Unfortunately you have massive players EGOS to contend with that makes your job as a coach even more difficult the higher up you go
    Believe me I’ve been there
     
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    Agreed. In the Premier and maybe Championship. But then most of the people who argue against a lower league coach are the same ones who write off League One as the alehouse league where all the teams and players are s**t. They can't have it both ways.
     
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    Division one (3) is a million miles better than it was in the 70s , 80s and 90s Football clubs have moved on a
     

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