[Official Site] CHANGES TO OUR CAR PARK OPERATION THIS SEASON

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    Metatarsal Well-Known Member

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    Gate 18 also provides direct access into the stadium at pitch level for vehicles, in the corner between North and East Stand, next to the floodlight pylon.
     
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    Yes but again there are better ways to do this. There is no reason to allow pedestrians through the same gate as vehicles. The carpark has 4 big double gates on it. Cars are only permitted to use one. That leaves three entrances for pedestrians and two of those can absolutely be guaranteed to avoid any vehicles.

    I've drawn a crude demonstration of what I mean below. Red would be pedestrian routes which could easily have cones to direct them. Blue would be vehicle entry routes and the green areas plus disabled positions are the only places that paths would cross. The green are the first that vehicles would be directed to so would be full from a very early point in the day, long before the 30 minute rule and the majority of disabled would too but even then we know it's such a small number that it's insignificant and could easily be managed by a steward.

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    The same goes for exiting the stadium. It's crackers that fans walk down between cars when there are gates at the top that pedestrians should be directed to.
     
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    Oh bugger. Never realised that. In that case why is it that whenever I've seen an emergency vehicle come to Oakwell they've always gone to the north west corner and entered that way? In fact don't we actually have an ambulance parked there because of that very reason? Just realised how stupid it is that beevor court is apparently the safe route yet the ambulance parks at the other side, or at least did
     
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    I'd guess the ambulance that is present on match days (a condition that all football league clubs have to adhere to I believe) parks there as part of normal operations and it's proximity to the players tunnel, and as you say, the existing access. More likely to be used during the game too, and if required to move a casualty after the match, I reckon it could actually drive in front of the North Stand (between the perimeter wall and goals) across to entrance. The Beevor Court route is presumably only for major incident response?
     
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    I'd assume you are correct with that but it seems stupid to have two different access points depending on how serious the incident is considered. Almost as though nobody has actually put any thought into it and have simply gone with a lazy 'that looks easy, **** the consequences ' approach.
     
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    Tend to agree, but suspect it's more the SAG members not directly connected to BFC driving this.

    I'm trying to be balanced with my opinions, it just feels like the assessment of risk that has resulted in these decisions and plans is overkill, and in fairness to BFC it extends way beyond their control.

    I totally get why risk of terrorism is now factored in for access routes and emergency responses after the Manchester Arena Bombings, but I always assumed that risks were evaluated both in terms of the consequences of the risk (which for terrorism would be massive) but also the likelihood of something of that magnitude happening (which for Oakwell must be low/negligible, unless someone in authority has intelligence saying otherwise.). I'm saying this from a position of complete ignorance.

    This apart, it does feel to me, and has done for a few years now, that the traffic, parking, pedestrian routes to and from Oakwell have been subjected to Traffic Regulation Orders, route restrictions etc etc to solve a problem that barely existed to anyone outside the SAG.

    A colleague parked in the train station car park on a Saturday matchday towards the end of the 21/22 season and on arrival back into Barnsley around 5pm couldn't get out of the carpark as it was closed off. God knows what it has cost the council to close the roads, sliproads and have this "policed" by the traffic management companies. Perhaps this will change when the bridge is finally open?
     
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    It won't change whilever there is one person at the sag. I was told by the club's former safety officer that this person is a. Power hungry and b. So risk averse that they're surprised they ever leave the house.

    That's why I can't believe the club have not publicly challenged it all and demanded the removal of that person from a role they are not suitable for
     
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