The fans New boo boy……….

To me, Russell is that midfielder who holds station. Protects the back 3 allows wing backs & attacking midfielders to get forward. Finds the ball & distributes, puts his foot in where necessary. If you look at our midfield, we have great creative players & goal scorers. I don’t see as much football as most fans, but I think Jordan would be happier at right wing back & certainly more effective.? Russell could be the centre half we’re looking for, certainly good in the air & playing out from defence.?
I know nowt.

 

Yeah. I agree. Can't elaborate on that other than to say he won't be caught out as much at the back. Reminds me of Spurs legend...Ledley King .

 

Lesley was a great footballer, blighted by injuries.
I’m of an age where I witnessed Mick McCarthy getting booed badly, for a momentary drop in form. We got promoted that year. Knocked Man City out the cup. I remember it very well. Mick had grown a beard. Signed for Man City to replace my cousin who had gone to Arsenal, for the biggest fee the n to be spent on a defender..

 

Alan Ball? Lee Dixon?

 

Started the season well in my opinion, to the point where I wouldn't bring Phillips straight back for him. I actually thought he played well for the most part yesterday. Went missing the last half hour.

 

@Mr C. I'm struggling to think of Citeh players that played for Arsenal. Way before Lee Dixon and Alan Ball managed them but played for Everton.

 

Tommy Caton Wonderful defender, he died very young

 

I'll ask my Dad about him. Love (reminiscing) talking about ex reds. My Dad's era was Clearly and Hunter. He loved the promotion to the Premier League but says when Clarkey took over he knew the club was on the up.

 

Alan Ball was probably retired or at Everton?. Dixon yes, Pat Rice, Liam Brady ( or had he already gone to Juventus?) David O’Leary, I think John Lukic had signed from Leeds? Caton got injured, lost his place to young Tony Adams.. Got sold to Charlton. Died from cancer at 30 years old, early 90s. Left wife & 3 young kids behind. Sad..
Selected for England, but never got off the bench.
Best known for having his blood twisted by that Riki Villa goal in the 81 cup replay. & of course, losing the header to Trevor Aylott at Oakwell. Both times, left on his arse. Good player though..?

 

Constructive criticism is the guideline for me Especially whilst still with the club. Someone can have a poor game. But just to say a player is shight on social media or boo at game. is as you say counterproductive. Especially a young un and take it to heart. And want out of the club. A few it will spur em on.
A manager/head coach will give that constructive criticism as and when necessary. Hopefully a player sees the value in that and acts on it.
Btw wtf it has to do with a happy clappers point. is beyond me. Why mention it.

 

Sorry to hear that mate. More bothered about the human aspect now from knowing less 20 mins ago. How are the family?

 

I told a story below, mate. Thanks for remembering..

 

Connell is really, really good. In my opinion. First name on the team sheet.

 

I didn’t know him, my dad did. His Grandad was brother of Tommy’s Grandad from Bolton . What’s that, twice removed? I saw him play at Oakwell that glorious night, 30,000 +. But only before, when he captained England school boys at Wembley on a school trip. Scotland beat England & I got pillocked all the way home. It’s tragic he died so young, with a new family .

 

Are we inadvertently giving him god like status? Yes he's a good Player and I'll always wish him well.

That said he's skin and bone like rest of us and nowhere near starting line-up.

This isn't about compassion of which I have plenty but I pay to watch Barnsley F.C.

 

It would be a pretty crap discussion board if we couldn't discuss our views on the merits or otherwise of players. There's ways of doing it though. I'm going to say Shaw isn't going to make it. I've barely seen him play so I could be completely wrong but he barely got in Duff's squad and the number of goals he's scored and the level he scored them at make me think he's unlikely to figure for us and I can't see why we signed him.
I'm not going to start abusing him though. I'm sure he's putting his all into it and he's a damn site better footballer than I ever dreamed of being. I'd rather have Norwood though.

 

This is where i'm at with him. I have a not dissimilar view on Watters as well. Something there with both and we may as well get behind them because with the threadbare paucity of options they are both going to get plenty of game time to come good.

 

We all want new signings to hit the ground running but It's a recurring pattern where new players are in and out of the team and deemed to be rubbish but given time to settle and a consistent run come good.
Kane, Mowatt, Mads and Cole all recent examples. Maybe even Iseka could show some value if given belief and a run in the team.

 

Does that then raise the question of if it’s something as fans we should come to terms with and accept or should the club be looking at how do they change the integration to get players hitting form quicker?

 

You’re right, mate. I hate boo boys, with a passion. I’ve seen them destroy careers & lives. Not only at Oakwell.
Just encourage them. Booing don’t work. I remember when our left back was getting ruined by Ruel Fox? Wonderful footballer. For Spurs at Oakwell. It was Darren Barnard I think, getting skinned for 80 minutes, then popped up at the end of a beautiful 11 pass move, brilliant vision from Redfearn & Darren just struck it in with power & curl from 20 yards at an angle . Glorious..!!.