It's not fixed though

If things are supposed to even themselves out then someone explain Gary Willard.

 

That's where the argument breaks down.

The stats are very far from normal, especially as we're one of the top teams in League 1, and have a goal difference of +40 for our time in the division. I know that a huge number of our goals come from outside the box, but there's just no way that we're attacking the opposition less than they're attacking us.

There's also an argument that someone, somewhere wanted Sheffield Wednesday, a so called "bigger club" in the Championship instead of us. I'm certainly still at an absolute loss as to how, with the benefit of VAR, we weren't awarded that penalty at Wembley. It's beyond comprehension.

But Leyton Orient? If the "big club syndrome" theory is correct, more often than not we should be benefitting from marginal decisions in this league. Especially once you factor in the large and vociferous away support we often have, which is supposed to subconsciously influence refs.

The penalty decision was clearly a farce yesterday, but I can't reasonably argue that the ref might have had any vested interest in Barnsley not winning yesterday. It just doesn't really make sense.

 

There’s no reason for there to be a conspiracy against us and if you don’t rationally believe in luck perhaps it is to do with the style of play over the last few years (so do we dribble into the box less or something) or the fact we have younger players who are less likely to appeal. Under Valerian we did get a normal number of penalties didn’t we? Fans influence referees so maybe we need to claim for them more vociferously too?

 

I don't think there's an agenda but I do think there's bias.

I don't mind refs making mistakes; they are going to make plenty. It's the doubling down on them. Was it a penalty? Let's give the benefit of doubt to one team. Was it a foul? Let's give the benefit of doubt to the same team. Have I been harsh and that's perhaps why the player is complaining? No, let's give the benefit of doubt to the same team and send the player off.

 

This is retribution from the New World Order
Person or persons from the FA ae part of the NWO and if you complain too much the FA or sing anti-Sheffield Wednesday songs then this is how you are dealt with.
Obviously the head of the NWO is also a Wednesday fan, this also explains Wembley.
It's not a conspiracy theory it's a fact.
No more complaining or laughing at Wednesday then we may start to getting our fair share of pens awarded.

 

It really is annoying but I think you also have to factor in the experience of the opposition.....players reactions definitely effect refs. Maybe our young uns are just not clever enough in that respect.

 

So how would you ‘factor in’ the blatant hand ball on the goal line during the away match at Burton Albion last season?

 

I'm not saying all decisions...I'm as mad as hell on that.
We play Shrewsbury next kings of having 8 players round the ref at every decision against them. Let's hope the new rules (is it only 2 players around the ref?) is applied.
Refs are influenced by players getting in their ear.

 

Yeah they are particularly bad for that.

 

No idea. It's just very clear from the data that there's some ingrained bias against Barnsley. I wouldn't have any idea of the reason for that, i'd be guessing. I'm assuming Orient just happen to be one of a very long line of recipients though.

 

Nobody seems willing to accept it but under the laws of the game the penalty was correct and the sending off was too.

Referees are ****, I criticise them weekly and in general I thought yesterday's was poor too but the 3 big decisions were all correct

 

No beef with the sending off, i agree with Jimmy Viz, Cosgrove was foolish.

 

And under the rules the defenders arm was raised in an unnatural position out from his body. It's the rules that are daft but the ref simply applied them correctly.

We have to try to remember that we should have had a lot of penalties recently but that doesn't mean every one given against us is incorrect too.

 

You are living in cloud cuckoo land

 

Thank god for Herbie because that could have made for a miserable evening. I've seen it back and it's a pathetic decision.

 

Indeed but when you consider the two incidents together it’s difficult to accept that a red card was justified. In the first one Cosgrove clearly wins the ball fairly, is then legged down by the player on the ground and gets up to find the ref has given a free kick to Orient. You’ d have to be pretty passionless not to be upset by that. In a perverse way I was quite happy to see that because up to then he’d seemed pretty soulless since joining us . But then the ref compounds it
by booking him again knowing full well that he was then going to give him a red card, with out any consideration as to whether the too incident’s together warranted it.

 

The efl wants bolton, derby & pompey to have best chance of promotion

 

That’ll about your most sensible post to date