We’re actually doing better than last season in the league

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  1. Stephen Dawson

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    Bravo.
     
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    No, more if you lose half of your home games in the first third of the season, winning away games in that period, when the fixture list happens to have drawn us against a lot of the weaker sides early doors, doesn’t necessarily paper over the cracks for everybody.

    This means some fans might see beyond the current points tally being bigger than it was at the corresponding time last year to see some issues that they feel will lead to this season’s team falling well short of the points earnt last season.

    People might feel that the approach in games isn’t enough to win against at least half the division. Feel that it is shackled, dreary, uninspiring and doomed to fail.

    At about this point last season the team went on to win six of the next seven. Do you think this side will do that? Even with Connell coming back into contention, I can’t see it.

    The side last season started off with a lot of inconsistency, which was expected, but put in great performances away at Ipswich and Wednesday which I cannot see this side being capable of. They are capable of beating the lesser teams well enough, but get found out otherwise. Once we’ve played everyone once it’ll be a truer reflection of how good we are.
     
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    If both sets of results were against exactly the same teams you could make a comparison, but they’re not, so any comparison is flawed, and a bit silly. A bit like saying how great England were for getting through to a World Cup semi-final, despite the easiest of routes and us not only losing to every good team we faced, but also breaking our record for the most defeats in a World Cup finals tournament. But the history books showed us getting to a World Cup semi-final, so we must have been ace, right?

    People have eyes. We saw the performances last season and we have seen the performances this. I don’t see how anyone can think that the performances from the first 15 games this season are ‘better’ than the ones last season. We are worse in every department apart from goalkeeper (until the past few games). Cole is doing better than he did last season, but he’s the only outfield improvement. Yes, Collins has had it tough coming into a club with several new players and an injury to one of our better players, but Duff came into a club that was toxic.
     
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    Of course you can make a comparison. And it's not silly.

    It's just that there are mitigating factors that enable an argument to be made that the greater points gained at this stage are not going to turn out to translate into a greater points tally at the end of the season.
     
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    Might not be the blue footed varieties & yes love the wildlife in the tropics. Rum, I am looking forward to....oooooh yeah.
     
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    Reading comments it appear the question right now isn't about a snapshot in time, its more a question of will we improve from here, stay the same or get worse.

    Seems some people feel we aren’t improving and the manager hasn't learnt much. As an alternative you could argue that with Connell coming back and Jalo now pushing the squad we should improve.

    be interesting to see all the trends and stats by the end of the year.
     
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    General view from me personally is that I just don’t think we’re playing that well, consistently enough. Now you could either say that’s a good thing, because we’re still picking points up. Or you could say it’s a pattern, and that we’re just not good enough to challenge top two. Only time will tell. So far though, I haven’t seen anything to give me confidence we’re top two material.
     
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    Compared to the same games last season, at home we are 6 points below last season. Compared to the same away games last season, we are 1 point better off. However, four of the teams we didn't play last season so you can't compare directly.

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    If you swapped Blackpool for Ipswich at home, that remains the same. Swapping Wigan for Wednesday, Orient for Milton Keynes and Northampton for Accrington - so swapping the new teams for the ones that finished last season in the equivalent position, we are an additional two points better off away.

    Based on last season, we are 3 points behind where we were from the comparative games.
     
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    Think that confirms this scenario.
     
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    We drew 0-0 at Bristol Rovers last season in a game which also knocks the 'boredom' of most of this season's games into a cocked hat.
     

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