Cruella’s Mean Letter

Nah, not massive enough.

 

Depends what you call centrist. I was referring to a moving centre ground admittedly. I'm a slightly bit left of Wilson, but it is complicated, as global / geren issues now are much more relevant.

 

Conservative have got nothing to lose now tho so might look at something drastic to give them a chance of holding on to power.

 

As I mentioned in another thread, it really worries me that many weapons grade loons will still vote for her at the GE probs next year. I wouldn't be surprised if she got re-elected but hoping she doesn't . Even worse, this country is done if she becomes PM at any time in the future!!

 

There are possibly enough of the aforesaid loons in the Tory membership to elect her leader if she gets that far. However, she'd have to make the top two in a MP vote in order to be on a ballot. If that should happen, please God the country retains enough sane citizens to never elect her PM. The demo's at the weekend would resemble a picnic if she were to assume control.

 

Ah, but apparently she speaks for the silent majority!

 

A yougov poll yesterday showed that 28% strongly support the Rwanda plan and 20% tend to support it.
That is absolutely f****g frightening. That anything like that number could be so compassionately numb doesn't bear thinking about. I despair for the UK. The complete failure to educate youngsters into decent human beings is heartbreaking.

 

Are you sure its the young? Most of the support appears to be over a certain age and of a certain skin tone...

 

I would be interested to see the demographics of the people polled. I don’t think that many educated youngsters would support the Rwanda plan, I think it is more than likely that the supporters are predominantly over 60, white and vote conservative, and the others are probably as thick as mince

 

Those you describe were young once and so therefore I assume his argument still stands.

 

Well i guess I'm talking about the last fifty years Scoff but I'm also afraid that i don't buy the idea that the current younger generation are going to be completely different to previous ones. When I was a kid there was the summer of love, Woodstock, campus revolution at Universities across the West. Look where that all led. Were certainly a more liberal society now but not overwhelmingly so.
I keep coming back to the fact that UK society is not and never has been socialist. Barnsley has been a Labour stronghold for a century. But that's because it's a working class town and Labour are a working class party. Yhey vote Labour out of self interest. Scratch the surface though and most have right of centre opinions on most things. Brexit proved that.

 

Those at university in the 60s - were a minority of the population (4%) - with the majority leaving school at 14-16 with few qualifications. Those at university now are roughly half of school leavers, and all kids are educated until later. Not only that, they can't have anything to conserve. No houses, golden pension schemes, etc. Even if they do go rightwards, they started out further left than any previous generation and might end up as LibDem voters. I mean, nobody under 25 voted for Brexit now so how popular is that going to be with any of them?

 

I'd be interested to see the age breakdown on this. Pretty sure most people who support it are at least over 50, mostly over 65 & lifelong Tories, or Red Wall "new Tories".

 

Anyone watching Sunak's press conference??!? Christ, they're going for it with the ECHR thing. Stupid, ignorant cuπts. Could put paid to the GFA. What the fu¢k are they thinking???

 

True....

 

So he's going to introduce a Bill designating Rwanda as safe despite the evidence to the contrary, no doubt with a 3 line whip for the vote.

Arsehole.

 

Her own parents are immigrants into this country though, I don't understand where this obvious distain for foreigners has come from?

Also her husband is also? This is honestly baffling.