The point of VAR?

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  1. exiled

    exiled Well-Known Member

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    Ref gives Romero a yellow for the reddest red card challenge you've ever seen. VAR checks it, still a yellow. They might as well scrap it and Romero is gonna seriously damage someone one day, he's a regular offender.
     
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    VAR decisions are joke week in week out.
    No consistency, no common sense, no clarity around the rules. The Four C’s. Including that the majority of VaR officials are lovely people.
     
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    Imho the Bournemouth non 4th goal was awful too.
    How is that handball?!!
     
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    Romero needs a long ban. He is going to seriously injure someone badly soon.
     
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    VAR came in because refs and assistants were making too many mistakes/incompetent yet we have the same people checking VAR, its hardly a surprise theres inconsistencies and mistakes made. Scrap everything that is open to interpretation and keep what cant be argued against, goal line tech.
     
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    The point of VAR is to allow pillocks in suits to bugger about with the laws of the game, the better to enable them to control who wins (the big rich clubs) and who loses (everybody else, whose role is to provide cannon fodder for the 'winners').
    Tarn and non-league for me and the Greed League can disappear up its own arse, which it will one day.
     
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    If it take longer than 20 seconds it’s not a clear and obvious error.
     
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    Exactly what I was going to say. It depends on the competency of the people sat behind the screen.

    Just glad we don't have it in League One. I'd seriously consider packing in going if we had it. I can't watch Premier League football on TV now.
     
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    If that's only a yellow, Phillips needs to sue the FA for all they're worth
     
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    Tyke The Tree-Frog Well-Known Member

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    Just don't think this is true mate. The most glaringly obvious example being the offside against Liverpool with Spurs. Over the past few weeks Man City have had their share of bad calls, Arsenal before that and Liverpool. Wolves have had them nearly every week poor buggers. Its just incompetence at the highest level
     
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    VAR should stick to clear and obvious errors, not stuff like ruling somebody offside because their fingernail is offside, that would hep
     
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    I agree. It's slowing the game down too much Bad enough watching as a neutral on TV, would hate it at a match.
     
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    I disagree.offside is offside and can be easily determined by technology. That to me is a good use of VAR.
     
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    VAR aside. Tottenham need shut of Romero. He's a liability.
     
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    It's being applied in a terrible way. If you're level to the human eye, which is the test the linesman has to apply, then you're not offside. If 5 minutes of drawing lines on screens determines that someone's little finger is a millimeter ahead of the other guys then that shouldn't result in an offside decision.

    Clear and obvious errors was the original standard where VAR was supposed to intervene. Instead, it has turned into a re-interpretation of the rules to the extent that the same measures couldn't be applied at a match where VAR isn't being used.
     
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    Can’t believe I’m going to defend Officials, but here goes.
    You can’t have ‘consistency’’ and ‘common sense’. It’s one or the other. Whichever one you chose to adopt, there’s going to be criticism of decisions.
    Could I suggest another approach. Either introduce VAR at every level of football - including primary school under 4s or……scrap it. That’s easy then…scrap it. Football is so far up its own arse it has become farcical.
     
  17. Stephen Dawson

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    I agree. I'd love to start seeing matches abandoned because both sides have had the maximum number of players sent off.
     
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    File this with Bigfoot, the Loch Ness monster, and Area 42, but here goes...

    VAR has little to do with getting decisions right. It was introduced mainly to protect referees and reduce their personal accountability for incorrect decisions. In EFL matches, we still slate referees who get things wrong, but in top flight matches referees are rarely mentioned anymore - it's now an error by a faceless VAR system. And judging by the number of complaints about VAR, I'd also argue that its introduction has led to more, not less, controversy per game.

    Just get rid of it. Referees getting things wrong is far more acceptable.
     
  19. Stephen Dawson

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    The bit I don't like about VAR is it's down to another referee sat in a studio. Why can't the referee on the pitch say "no it wasn't clear and obvious I'm going with my own decision?"
     
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    The problem is though, technology can show that a player is 5mm offside at a given time, but can it show that the given time is correct. If a player is deemed to be offside when the ball is kicked, surely if the margin is 5mm, or any other of the tiniest margins we've all seen, the slightest error in deciding the exact time the ball was kicked makes all the difference. A quarter of a second out, and the player could be a foot onside.
     

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