If it needs investment to make it happen... Then forget it!

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  1. WG Red

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    extrapolated ?????.....wow big word for a fans forum that lol
     
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    Every day’s a learning day :)
     
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    I genuinely think with the right structures and leadership in place, we can compete in the Championship. It’s not gonna be easy though, and I agree that the finances have changed our standing in the order of things. Not sure I agree with the Wrexham example though - I’d say they were a rare exception.
     
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    Do you think though, that the finances of the 60's/70's/80s, means we could possibly attract the same players if they were playing today. (Not a prayer imho) It's just not comparable. The bosman ruling. The massive Influx of foreign players soon followed the impact of sky astronomical contracts. And beyond reason, players wages.

    I dont think anyone wants to settle for mediocrity. But accept we are in a different ball park. Ffp rules etc. Teams like Derby portsmouth. wigan. Bolton and up until recently wendy/ipswich . are not where they think they should be. But they are/were, due to the mismanagement of previous and present owners.
    Now its Reading. West brom that are broke.
     
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    Wrexham will bottom out way before the Championship, Ryan Reynolds doesn't have enough money.
     
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    Lol
     
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    With our 10k gates we are a pretty big fish in L1 but a little tiddler in the champ..
    And we attract players because they know if they do well we sell em on.. we are who and where we are.
    We may have a good season and go up but with next to no chance of staying there..
    But like any club we have a 'punch's chance' of the promised land.. like Luton and Huddersfield in recent years. But for that you'll need all the planets to align.. But most of all excellent management from the top down.
    But also, may I point out, with poor recruitment/management we've also ever chance of doing a Bradford or a Swindon and dropping further..
     
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    What like last summer.

    Non league freebies a go go. Allegedly we paid £300k for Walter’s and a bit more for De Gevigney all the rest were freebies and loans. Season before was the same when we dropped which was understandable due to the relegation. We wasted 1.2m on Benson due to him never being available. I can sort of see why they now shy away from paying big money for any players at this level.

    Only money we spend really was when Conwy went wild with what was in the bank when they took over thanks to the John Stones windfall.
     
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    I managed to get a Yorkshire Post from the day I was born (14 August 1970).

    Having a post Christmas tidy up I came across it and as I was skimming through I noticed a headline about BFC’s transfer activity.

    it does appear that over 53 years have past but little has changed.

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    Dunt wanna go up.
     
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    We are a L1 club due to years of poor ownership and stewardship off the pitch.
     
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    I agree, we can compete, but it’s going to take hard work off the field to realise that dream, we just haven’t got the money to compete, but if we get recruitment right, & I mean outgoings more than incomings, it’s about getting it right when it comes to cashing in on players, a prime example being January 2017, whether we could help it or not, it was a disaster, & the following pre season. I’m all for realising players move on to bigger things, but not all at once. When we have a settled side with a strong spine, you don’t rip it out, replace with unproven lower league gambles & hope for the best. Thats not how you build a side to compete.
     
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    That is also a factor.
     
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    "Mr Dennis attacked people in the town"
    :D:D:D
     
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    We'll still have the same financial restraints and they won't have been helped by the fact we now have two people in place fulfilling the role that Khaled was performing, unless the pair of them are earning less than he did. The better recruitment policy is not one a Director of Football can deliver. He may have a better concept of a player's capabilities and how he will fit in to the team but, if the recruitment model doesn't change, then if the desire of the owners is we recruit to make money on resale, and promotion to and sustainment in the Championship is a secondary consideration, nothing much has changed. If that's the case we'll still have a scattergun approach to recruitment in the hope that one of these players will get sold on for decent money. It then becomes irrelevant if we have 6 or 7 centre backs fighting for 3 places in the team just so long as one of them will make you serious money 2 or 3 years hence.
     
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    As a club we are actually crap at signing players with a ‘big’ price tag. Generally speaking more with a bigger fee fail than succeed.
     
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    Hopefully a decent DoF will be able to stop recruiting 7 CB as there is little benefit to the First team in the short or long term and strike a middle balance of recruiting players that are earmarked for first team duties or in line to replace someone leaving in next 2 years.
    Hopefully also they can identify why we seem to fail to develop a lot of the players we recruit who then go on to have a decent career after leaving us.
     
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    Yep very true every player we have signed on big money. Herbie Kane is probably another player we are going to watch leave on free after spending a million on. Whilst not earning anything at least we have had some return on his investment.
     
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    His net worth has gone from around £85m to £600m in 2 years, reckoned to be billionaire status along with his wife by next year. I'd say he's got plenty to get to top end Championship if he stays interested.
     
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    Isn't plugging the shortfall considered investment?.Isn't paying debts investment? Isn't signing players and paying wages investment?
     

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