Yemen

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  1. YT

    YT Well-Known Member

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    What a w**k world.
     
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    They aren't trying to blockade Israel though are they the vast majority of the ships they've attacked aren't going to or coming from Israel and aren't owned by Israeli companies they are mostly container ships full of goods It's piracy dressed up as support for Hamas but really it's just the Houthis trying to impose a toll at the entrance to the Red Sea.
     
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    Totally agree. ps get ready for GP strikes later this year.
     
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    Given that Schapps was saber-rattling from Wednesday, if not before, it's difficult to see why this should not have gone before Parliament for emergency debate on Thursday. That would have been in accordance with almost all recent UK military engagements and would have allowed the legislature to fulfil it's function as one of the checks and balances on the power of the executive. No doubt the action would have been approved, but there is an important point of principle here. Instead, Sunak has used the Speaker and LOTO to rubber stamp his decision and has ignored Parliament. (I cut Hoyle and Starmer some slack because I think they were effectively presented with a fait accomplait.)

    Similarly with the Post Office convictions, we are told that legislation is to be passed to annul them. That is a very dangerous precedent. The courts themselves should be asked to set aside the convictions on the grounds that none of them can now be regarded as safe. That could be done very speedily on an unopposed basis, and would avoid the impression that the executive (using the legislature) is over-riding the courts and usurping their powers.

    This all feeds forward to the debates next Tuesday and Wednesday on the Rwanda bill, which over-rides findings by the Supreme Court and - if amendments from the crazier outreaches of the Tory Party are accepted - may seek to do the same with external court decisions and treaty obligations. One might add in the further avoidance of parliamentary scrutiny due to the increased use of ministerial law-making through secondary legislation which the Commons does not always get the chance to approve.

    These are dangerous times for democracy, and they may become more dangerous after the US Election in November.
     
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    Only thing we're any good at, useless at everything else.
     
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    Nail on head. Worrying times.
     
  7. wak

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    Delusional.
     
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    What they're trying to do is block the cargo ship routes and put big companies off using it in a bid to raise global prices thus affecting western economies' its the only feesable weapon they have' if you can't see what the root problem is here its you thats delusional' stop listening to the bbc and sky news soundbites and take a look at aljazeera ( sky channel 511) and you'll see whats really going on.
     
  9. Winker

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    The Worlds Fooooked an its gerrin worse, an China aint even flexed a muscle yit. C,O,Y,R,
     
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    Do you write Sunak’s speeches ?
    Seriously though you’re so right my friend
     
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    Tories have been undermining legal and conventional precedents for a while now and trying to alter laws to fit more of an authoritarian agenda. Think the prorogation of Parliament by Johnson, the willingness to break the law over Brexit, the change in the law regarding protest and assembly, the gerrymandering of the elections. And then of course, as you say, this incident. Dangerous times indeed but the narrative in the media won't address any of this. Democracies sometimes sleep-walk into non-democracies because individuals and institutions are too weak, naive or blind or, simply acquiesce. We have a combination of all of those occurring.
    As to the Yemeni thing itself, for me the big picture means getting Israel to stop slaughtering Palestinians (c.24000 at last count). The situation is escalating because of that and will not be solved by air-strikes because the US and its UK stooge want to posture as pro-Israeli when as said the Israelis are daily breaking international law themselves. Houthis are twa.ts but the Israelis are twa.ts as well and they need reigning in not backing.
     
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    Neither have Argentina with the Falklands.
     
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    ?? Eh, is this a serious response?
     
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    Oh yes they did an the Task Force sent em packing,
     
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    Hoothi Rebels sounds like something straight from Star Wars.
     
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    One of the main things, but not the only one, for israel's cleansing of the Gaza strip is that a huge gas field has been found off the Gaza coast. It has the potential to make Gaza a very rich country, the Israelies don't want that and they want it for themselves, the good old US of A by proxy would also want a piece of the action in return for their backng.
     
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