Dan Jarvis letter to the EFL

The Referee thought the pitch was subject to permafrost so the game could have been called off two years ago

 

Jarvis isn't my biggest fan ,but to criticise him on a local issue which I think is 100% , backing supporters instead of the greed league is quite unbelievable.

 

You’re probably right but it’s the first time I’ve seen his name mentioned on here since he disgraced himself (in my opinion) & I let rip.

I don’t actually think there’s a lot you can do about the weather. It can change so quickly that you’ll end up with scenarios where games are getting called off as a precaution the day before & then fans will be fuming it’s been moved to a Tuesday night a month later when the weather ends up fine on the Saturday.

 

So if they had called a game off at Oakwell at 11 only for it to be playable at 3 you would be happy then? The fixture is not just about away fans.

 

I've told you before, stop talking sense.

 

Scrapping the League Cup would be a good idea. It's an absolutely pointless competition.

 

What has Trevor Chinn paid Dan Jarvis?

 

£10k in 2016 ,seems to get most of his donations from a Peter Hearn and his related companies now

 

go on then, what’s he stand to gain election year or not, he’s hardly going to lose even if he did nowt is he?
Honestly I swear some folk on here look for negatives that aren’t actually there just for the sheer hell of it, to the extent people must wonder why they bother trying!

 

Just how I see it. Perhaps I am a bit cynical. Either way, not worth wetting the bed over.

 

Personally I would get rid of EFL Trophy full,stop

 

I like the idea of a trip to Wembley for teams that wouldn't ordinarily get there. We've been fortunate in recent years, but imagine being a fan of a league 1/2 club, who haven't visited our national stadium for a game. Apparently there aren't many anymore (and most are actually Championship and Premier League sides), but I've got fond memories of our game with Oxford there, and think it's part of why we follow our clubs. Accrington, Port Vale and Colchester are yet to visit the new Wembley stadium, and Accrington never visited the old one either.

The League Cup on the other hand....

 

I think it's more about assuming unplayable pitches will become playable rather than vice versa.

If (for example) last night had got called last minute due to rain /wind that's one thing - unfortunate but a pitch inspection wouldn't have solved anything. When a pitch is unplayable and its called off last minute as things haven't improved - that's where things can be done. I was at Plymouth all those years ago which while very frustrating was essentially unavoidable due to biblical rain. I was much more frustrated having travelled to Stevenage on Saturday....

 

Any rule you have can have caveats to allow for unexpected events, but something needs to be done to make sure these things are handled better, and things need to be more transparent.

Who decides whether or not to have the pitch inspected the night before? Am guessing it's the home club. There should be better comms from the home club, so, when it was announced that there was a pitch inspection at 11am (why not 9am?), there should've been some info put out on the state of the pitch. Was it still frozen, or was the concern about the overnight temperatures, basically, why the inspection? Then, once the 11am inspection has taken place and the ref isn't happy with it, what difference would 2 hours in low single figure temperatures really make? He didn't help things by describing it as a permafrost.

 

I agree Dan Jarvis' letter is a good one.
I disagree with you on what he is asking for is unreasonable. There is a foreseeable finacial risk to travelling football supporters to games that may be cancelled so late that prevent fans commencing their journey. The EFL have a vicarious liablity to decisions made by the referee and as such they have a duty of care to travelling supporters to mitigate those financial risks. As for what is deemed to be reasonable, a dictionary definition is "fair and sensible" which the MP's suggestion is. The nearest legal definition, "reasonably practicable", is found in Edwards v National Coal Board [1949] 1 All ER 743 CA, which is a much narrower term than possible.

 

As i’ve said though if you advocate for this you have to be ok with more games being called off, leading to fewer saturday fixtures and a very hectic schedule in march-may.

You have to be ok with games at oakwell being called off at 10am and then the conditions improving to where the game would have been totally playable.

 

The MPs duty is to represent his constituents interests. What he has done in this instance is 'as well as' not 'instead of'. If he has been approached by BFC supporters is he not duty bound to respond? How much of his time has it taken to write that letter?
If he or Stephanie Peacock have you contacted them to address your concerns/ instead of trying to score political points. As for opposing genocide perhaps our PM or his foreign secretary should be doing something rather than preparing for a forthcoming election.

 

I fully understand your reasoning, but it misses my point on reasonable.Current situations like Saturday's do not impose costs to the EFL, but do impose a cost to travelling supporters. It is difficult for those supporters to mitigate the costs imposed outwith their control. If the current protocols are to prevail then supporters must accept that there is a financial risk to them. Footballing governing bodies tend to serve their own interests before those of the supporters and in many cases before the clubs. I suspect our own club are in a somewhat invidious position, in they will not wish "to rock the boat" bearing in mind the impending decision regarding the financial shenanigans of former board members.

 

Yes they should. I’m not arguing otherwise.

Wrote to Peacock as I’m in her constituency.

Plenty of Labour MP’s showed some backbone & went against the whip but unfortunately our Barnsley ones didn’t.

 

Peacock’s the very definition of a career politician.