Adults in charge of Labour - Thatcherism 2024

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  1. Jimmy viz

    Jimmy viz Well-Known Member

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    What’s the point of Starmer’s Labour if it won’t stand up for poor, sick or disabled people? | Frances Ryan https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/mar/12/keir-starmer-labour-poor-sick-disabled-tory

    Whatever else one thinks about the red Tories, in my opinion they are simply giving the blue ones the opportunity to get straight back in in the election c.2029. That will be a total abandonment of millions of people if and when it happens. The current Labour party is boxing itself into a corner and inviting future criticism because its implicitly saying its offering nothing except vagueries about growth and attacks on benefits claimants. It will therefore fail to deliver anything of substance. Millions of people need help and hope and it doesn't look like Reeves and Starmer are prepared to give any.
     
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    Exactly this. Articulated far better than I could if you don’t mind me saying so.

    Reeves and Starmer aren’t there to help others. They are there to line their puppeteers pockets. And their own of course.

    Ride the gravy train for 4 / 5 years and disappear into the sunset with their millions and bugger the rest of us. In time we won’t be their problem.

    Peacock, Jarvis, Healey etc are exactly the same by the way. As I told a Labour canvasser the other day as it goes, funnily enough although she couldn’t say I got the vibe she actually agreed with me :D
     
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    The headline in the London Economic article seems somewhat divorced from what Rachel Reeves actually said. To say that "we stand at an inflection point" equates to 'pitches herself as a modern-day Margaret Thatcher' invites the reader to take the article less than seriously.
     
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    I bet you voted for Brexit,
     
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    Lolz. No.
     
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    Substitute Sunak, Hunt & the rest of the Tory money grabbers & I’d agree with you - let’s see whether Sunak et al disappear

    You told the canvasser what you thought, she said nothing but you got your “vibe” that she agreed? You’re entitled to your opinion but not to tell us what someone else’s opinion would have been.

    A desperate projection of corruption onto the Labour opposition
     
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    The SNP MP asked a good question at PMQ's which was quite pertinent. In summary it was along the lines of 'with lots of his party looking for someone to replace him which one of the many born-again Thatcherites on the Labour front bench will he choose?'
     
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    I think he's still smarting from being outwitted by Keir over that Gaza vote.
     
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    Jimmy and kamikazi in we don’t like starmer post number 1652136

    I’ve nothing to add to this debate and from the above posts neither do both protagonists it seems.
     
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    He can smart, be outwitted and be pertinent at the same time
     
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    Er.... I think you'll find its post 167318 actually.
     
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    I think the dire state the tories are leaving behind makes it hard to forecast where the money is coming from.
     
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    What I don't understand is fine don't like starmer but continuously putting anti labour posts on here will only drive more voters to either the Tories or to reform. Is that really what Jimmy wants?
     
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    unfortunately that’s the level of economic debate. A fiat currency producing economy can fund anything it chooses to fund. All capital spending comes from money creation not taxation. All decisions are political decisions not economic ones.
     
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    Yup every news outlet that reported it including Labour List ‘misunderstood’. Given that Thatcher contracted the economy increased unemployment and destroyed our manufacturing base I’d get a better hero if I were Rachel.
     
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    Not sure it was outwitting anyone to blackmail the speaker. Something Labour and the speaker who wants his little bauble should be ashamed of. Nice to see Labour playing politics around the genocide of 10s of 1000s of people.
     
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    Everyone Knows This Is Nowhere. (Neil Young).
     
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    So the SNP weren't playing politics around the wording of their motion? Let's get real.
     

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