When Is A Derby Not A Derby?

Exactly what I always thought

 

Definition of local is somewhat blurry. I'd say Manchester and Liverpool being 30 miles apart is a Derby....

 

And yet Man City v Everton means very little when talking derbies.

 

But considered a derby amongst City and Evertonins?

 

Well maybe so

 

The locals in my boozer don't consider Reds v fowls/blunts a derby but do a game v Leeds. Work that one out....

 

I suppose it's a derby if you think it is... Norwich City describe the Ipswich game as the East Anglia Derby.
https://www.canaries.co.uk/content/gallery-norwich-city-1-0-ipswich-town

 

I'd say a derby is two teams in the same county. Manchester to Liverpool is the same as Barnsley to Chesterfield, and I wouldn't class that as a derby.

 

Isn’t chesterfield in Derbyshire and Barnsley in Yorkshire?
Just asking.

 

When I first started,the teams I considered derby’s were Bradford, donny, chesterfield,Mansfield ,Rotherham & Halifax.we never played the Sheffield clubs,only in the county cup.

 

I know Notts County want it to mean more, but Notts Forest say that Derby for them, is the bigger rivalry.
Norwich v Ipswich is a big one, and so is Aston Villingham v Birmingham lol.
Coming from West Yorkshire as I do, I've always looked at Leeds as a great rivalry for us. And I simply can't look at Sheff Wensdy the same, as the majority on here do.

 

Sorry mate, read that several times, still makes no sense.

 

I was on a coach trip up Scotland an was amazed how close the Dundee clubs were, nar thats gorra be a derby, Being a Barnsley fan my favourite game is Wednesday home an away an in my opinion thats our derby.

 

Seems to be two arguments here. A Derby is simply two clubs in the local town, region, area playing against each other. I think thats the simple definition.

The second argument is more about which games bring emotion, a history of rivalry and a higher tension between fans. This can be any game but often is associated with many Derby’s but not only Derbys. I think many people and especially the press like to try to position any rivalry into the Derby category maybe to make it easier to describe.

 

Yes. My point is, the distance between Liverpool and Manchester is the same as Barnsley and Chesterfield. They're also in different counties. Which is why I'd class Liverpool and Utd as a rivalry and not a derby.

 

I'm old school. Liverpool and Manchester are both in Lancashire....

 

I'd maybe not say that to someone from either.

I once misheard a Manc lads accent when I was on holiday as scouse. We were in a loud bar, and I'm as deaf as a door post at the best of times and he was drunk so probably not the most coherent. He wasn't best pleased.

 

To wind dee dars up I'll refer to them as, Not Really Yorkshire, as vast parts of the city was in Derbyshire until the 70s. Derbyshire CCC used to play home games at Bramall Lane and that the oldest football club in the world is based in Derbyshire.

Incidentally Lancashire CCC still play the occasional game in Liverpool....

 

The part of Sheffield I live in was in Derbyshire until 1967, and then West Yorkshire until 1972.

 

Norwich is'er Norfolk and Ipswich is Suffolk.. it is tho Norwich's closest opponents.. while Ipswich have Colchester half the distance.