Wheres Scott?

A thread calling Scott out was never going to end well.

 

Then you're also nuts

 

Really ? Collins had to go.

 

Well the board think so or I assume he will still be here.

 

He's made lots of comments in the last year or two and as far as I recall he's been correct at times (although I might be confusing facts with opinion), He says what he thinks like I do though so I haven't got a problem with his comments. He does get flack for saying what he does but at the end of the day he's a Barnsley fan like me and you so as far as I'm concerned he can spout ****** as much as he likes if he wants to vent (I talk ****** a lot myself). As long as he's not insulting anyone I'm happy to read what he writes. Its the piling on I dont like to see. If someone has a minority opinion lots of people seem to take pleasure in insulting. We all have a view.....For example, I once made a comment about Bruce Dyer where I suggested he wasn't as good as some people were making him out to be. I was hammered for it, called a racist and other insults. Just for having a view which I'd explained. That's why I get pissed off.

 

I think what rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way was how throughout the season he'd pretty much disappear for weeks on end when we were winning, only to reappear within seconds of us losing or not playing very well, posting a slew of negative comments, most of which were pretty unconstructive. I don't think anyone wants to silence critical voices, especially if they're considered and measured. It's the posters who only ever post negative stuff and appear to get an odd kick out of doing so, who tend to be unpopular.

 

All he has done since August has said we were rubbish and Collins was useless. Then when we went on our brilliant run of form (one loss in 18, 48 points from 22 games) he disappeared.

We then lost a random game and he reappeared to tell us all Collins was useless and that Earl should play LWB.

We then went on another good run so he disappeared again. He's now back to say I told you so, because we've had a bad run to end the season.

That's why he gets his opinion questioned.

 

Well that's me convinced. The Board is never wrong.

 

Just like your opinion and mine Scott’s doesn’t matter. The people evaluating his performance deemed it to be not good enough. I found some of what he said OTT I found some of those denying the reality of their eyes defending the sometimes indefensible performances equally OTT. As always the reality was somewhere in the middle.

The bottom line when you play a dull style of football that produces positive results as soon as those results go you have very little left.

 

Agree with the general point.

But when the results went, it left us 5th not 14th.

 

I think he deserved the season myself despite not being a fan of his.

 

Surely Scott and Springvale are entitled to their opinion and entitled to some respect for voicing it. I think that's what a forum is for. You run a real risk by just shooting people down in flames of ending up with some "group speak" which would be boring.
My two penneth on Collins:
Something just didn't quite gel. The style wasn't great but had some efficacy, especially away.
He finished in a position broadly in line with our apparent wage bill so you could argue he didn't add any value. Moreover, he was in real danger of finishing below that level and presumably the level of expectation of the board.
There was a rumour with internal links to the club I relayed a week ago that he had lost the dressing room. It seemed plausible due to the sudden recent drop in form.
No Manager survives losing the fans. Rightly or wrongly. It's a business and alienating your own customers is something that can't be allowed.
The big questions are:
Did the board just sack him for season ticket sales rather than football reasons or was the DoF confronted with a player delegation? Or, seems unlikely, they think they had someone better lined up? (this is the bit that really worries me)

 

For me, season ticket sales, pure and simple.

 

Good reply Scott.

- The timing was to give Neil as long as possible to get that one final win to get us over the line, before it got to the last chance saloon. The timing was the latest it could possibly be.

- I can't think of a full 90 minute performance this season either. Even the thrashing of Oxford we had slices of luck early on.

- Devante Cole has improved if we are going on goals. Apart from him I would struggle to name another player. All our key players of last season that are still here have got worse and those out of contract downed tools by February.

- I would hope Neil would be given until the end of the season to finish the job he started. After being called a sad Scottish ******* to the Mark Mghee song at Blackpool, more renditions of your Football is **** and the toxic anger towards him applauding the fans at full time he had to go.

- Chapman was injured for four months. I hope he's seen as one for the future.



-Hit the nail on the head with clean sheets. How can a defender be so bad at coaching a team defensively? Most of our wins have been sneaked by 1 goal, but many defeats by more than 1 goal.