Full respect to the pope

For apologising if anyone was offended by a word that he used behind closed doors.

Translation: I'm not sorry,it was only a word you set of snowflakes. Plus it was a private conversation and if I want to be homophobic in private then **** you.


Nonce

 

I mean what's the world coming to?
Can't Catholics be homophobic anymore?
Next we'll be saying they have to respect women!
It's the thin end of the wedge it really is.

 

Nowt like tarring them all with same brush. Imagine if this was another religion you be accused of racism.

 

Unless I've missed summat he hasn't tarred all Catholics as homophobic. Although Catholicism as a defined set of beliefs is inherently homophobic (as are some other faiths)

 

He's apologised, only for being caught out. We now know his mindset

 

Before this you thought he was up for organising Vatican Pride week?

 

Can't Catholics be homophobic anymore is saying they are homophobic? I'm unsure of the post in the 1st place.

 

Not being religious, haven't gave a a moments thought.

 

If the shoe fits.
To your second point maybe I would be accused of racism but Islam is not a race so that would be incorrect. Its another horrible religion with a "holy" book that I would hate to set my moral standards by just like the bible.

 

Good and bad in all walks of life.

 

Indeed. Many religious people are good people. But I contend this is inspite of religion not because of it.
At best they cherry pick the moral lessons they believe are applicable to todays society which shows a moral code beyond that of the bible. Which I'm thankful for otherwise society would be a lot worse than it already is.

 

I read it as highlighting that the teachings of Catholicism and the head of the church complaining about "too much faggotry" gives Catholics licence to be homophobic rather than saying that all Catholics are homophobic.

 

No group of people are as desperate to be a victim as middle aged white christian men it's absurd.

 

Indeed i do not believe all Catholics are homophobic. However I believe it is deeply ingrained in the teaching of the religion.

 

'There is good and bad in everyone' - Ebony and Ivory/McCartney and Wonder. Personally I wonder why they decided to do such a crap song....

 

"Indeed i do not believe all Catholics are homophobic. However I believe it is deeply ingrained in the teaching of the religion."

I often expect to read ****** on this site but the level of ****** in this thread is up there with the best of them.

 

Doesn't the Catholic Church regard homosexuality as a sin?

 

"If they don't play the game son, they shouldn't make the rules!"

Observation from the Scottish Assistant Bank Manager I worked for. He also introduced me to Carlsberg Special Brew, after two of which the world seemed much clearer!

 

The bigger problem is the requirement for clergy to be celibate, it means that Catholic men who can't or won't confront their sexuality - which they are taught it is disordered, find refuge in a supposed celibate lifestyle inside the Church. This leads to lots of issues, shall we say, too complicated to probably pick apart here, but needless to say, there is always this feeling that the seminaries where priests are taught are run by the Gay priest groups, who prey on the young men there - gay or not. I would say this might be a lot of paranoid nonsense of course, but when something the Pope says in private about there being too many gay priests gets out to the press, you do start to wonder, who leaked that and why? Because generally what is said private obviously stays private.
By definition the teaching of the Church on this matter is going to look hopelessly outdated, given they don't follow the Western society social agenda - and by the way much of the rest of the world, Catholic or not, don't either.

 

If you're going to quote me just hit the quote button!

Please tell me which bit of that statement is untrue.
For hundreds of years the Catholic Church condemned same sex activity. Using threats of hell to enforce its morality on society.
Now I know the current Pope has spoken out and said homosexuality is not a crime and just a sin. But he has also acknowledged many Bishops in some parts of the world support laws that criminalise homosexuality or discriminate against the LGBTQ community.
Direct quote was
"It's not a crime. Yes, but it's a sin, Fine, but first let's distinguish between a sin and a crime."
Baby steps perhaps but hardly a welcoming and inclusive approach.
Moreover I believe Francis' comments are the first uttered by a pope about such laws.