Just stop oil

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  1. kir

    kirky boy Well-Known Member

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    My apologies, but it's still too many of us for the size of the world.
     
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    The thing with inflation rate is that it's calculated on a 12 month rolling average which can be misleading as if the next month that drops out was particularly high then the fall is significant.
     
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    Is that what I said. Or did you miss the first sentence. The rest is from source. Facts (as on several platforms ) not assumptions.
    Growth not increase.
     
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    kirky boy Well-Known Member

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    It has been pointed out to me and I have apologised but the answer still is there is too many of us today not tomorrow.
     
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    redrum Banned Idiot

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    But surely there better off protesting to the worst culprits? I'd like to see them behave like that in Saudi or Russia.
     
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    I'm really mixed on this. I completely understand their frustration at the woeful inaction that's gripping our planet to the biggest collective challenge we've faced... and obviously, it being completely self inflicted (as seems to be the norm).

    But things like this are going to upset far more people than they bring to their cause. It comes down to what you're trying to achieve. Talking about it doesn't necessarily mean any positive sentiment or debate will seed and resulting positive action follow.

    But I'm not sure what will work and generate mass action. Today for example, reports out that fossil fuel emissions are continuing to rise. India now accounts for more coal consumption than America and Europe combined. Oil consumption continues despite increasing renewables. Plastic and forever chemicals are literally found everywhere. Materials like teflon and the waterproof materials used in coats and outdoor wear continues with 75% of companies having no fixed schedule to stop using these materials that shed into the natural world.

    I've come to the conclusion that mankind is collectively incapable of positive change on the scale required, even when it's in its own interest. Short term greed and power is far more important to too many. Even as we see the early signs of climate change that could lead to climate collapse, we tinker round the edges and leave it to everyone else to fix. Nature is currently feeling the worst of it. But soon enough, mankind will as we struggle for food and water. As we flood and burn.
     
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    We live in a country where protest is allowed mate. I'd fear what would happen to protesters in such as those countries. Against their own governments especially.

    It's up to other governments to fight the cause or bring in sanctions that only affect the major culprits.The USA is the biggest
    Producer/supplier of oil apparently.
    Venezuela the largest reserves.
    China are increasing coal powered generation as we speak.
     
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    Sadly though it is fuel for the Daily Heil & all the other right wing tabloids. No damage done to the stones, but they have not helped their cause at all sadly.
     
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    Taylor Swift’s private jet just got powdered. That’s much more like it..:)
     
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    B4stards. Stonehenge is one thing, but Taylor's jet...
     
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    :D:D:D
     
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    China tried to stop their population growth back in the 80s and 90s, didn't go very well did it?

    I absolutely agree that human population is the root of the problem. However, while we have religions like Islam and Catholicism mandating their followers to reproduce as fast as possible how do we tackle it? Countries like the UK actually have a declining population (ignoring immigration) so you could argue that we are doing our bit, which makes the fact that the Tories have encouraged us to produce more children to drive the economy absolutely gobsmacking. Economic growth and the manic efforts to achieve it are the real problem, but one we can actually do something about - the only other thing we could do to help would be to ban religion of course.
     
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    As we were touring in Dorset, we were seriously contemplating parking up a few miles from the stones and cycling to them in the dark to see the sunrise - the weather forecast being unbelievably favourable. However, Just Stop Oil have made us think again and we are now in Lymington - while I'm in no way fashion conscious, I just don't look good in orange.
     
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    Great post. Humankind won't attempt to sort out the issues until it's too late to do so.
     
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    Genuine question as someone who tries to do their bit and encourage the kids to do the same, ie solar panels, electric car, generally saving energy, cycling where possible etc. What impact does the ever evolving British population actually have on global warming?
    In the grand scheme of things it can't be that much and people and businesses are getting better. There's no point looking at the past whare heavy industries were happily killing their employees and surrounding areas with carbon and silicosis. We've grown out of that.
     

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