US presidential debate

Erm, not my leader, never will be.

 

A lot of it is fair game but also a lot of it isn't. Joe Biden has a speech impediment, always has, always will. He has a stutter. Unfortunately Donald trump supporters jump on this and use it as evidence of dementia and the imbecilic media who back trump run with the story and spread it round the world.

He may or may not have, I'm not a doctor. But a lot of what people are claiming is evidence of dementia is actually evidence of a speech impediment.

There's also the selectively edited clips that the right wing scumbags put out to discredit him

 

A few months ago there was a movement to try and get Michelle Obama but apparently there is a lot of bad blood between the Biden's and the Obama's that scuppered it.

 

What his administration has done not what he has done. Maybe i am wrong ro assume dementia but it's 100% clear he is confused and incapable of functioning for any reasonable period of time.
If I were American I'd vote Democrat but I'd be embarrassed that was the candidate.
It gives Trump such a easy run.

 

What a choice..

 

Not sure what the bad blood is for, thought Obama had given Biden his full support. Michelle Obama would crucify Trump imo but is probably too sensible to take the job on

 

Apparently it was something that was said or done when Obama had the job.

 

Apparently Biden has been preparing for this debate for a week with 16 people. He was abysmal, there's no 2 ways about it.

I don't understand why Biden & the democrats have to exaggerate, lie or opine on certain facts, leave all that to Trump - it just makes it easier for the republicans, especially after how hard they went after Trump for Russia and it turned out to be largely ****** compared to what we all believed at the time. It's like why allow a judge who donated to the Biden campaign to preside over the recent Trump case? All it does is give Trump & some of his cronies ammunition. The 50+ CIA/FBI people who came out and said the laptop wasn't Biden's & was propaganda turned out to be nonsense too and according to polls would have had an impact on the election. Even when Biden said inflation was at 9% when he took over, it was actually 1.4% (according to NBC) - it's so easy for the republicans to use it against Biden. I just don't get it??? Just leave it for Trump to talk ****** and then the people will see it - don't lower yourself to his level.
I get why people vote for Biden over Trump, but Biden is a scumbag war-mongerer too.

I don't like Newsome particularly, I don't think he's done a great job at all. And removing/cleaning up California of all the homeless when the Chinese arrived, I felt insulted. There's plenty of good he's done, plenty of bad too. I would like Raskin. But I do agree the Democrats should have ran with Newsome - he's a fantastic debater, he's got charisma, bit like Obama. He just has that 'it' factor & I genuinely believe had he been running now we'd all be happy because I'm convinced he'd have won Trump. It SHOULD be so easy to defeat Trump with everything going on, and I fear they've got it completely wrong. It's terrifying. Now we may be in for lots of bad tweets and embarrassing moments, if the polls are to be believed. Reading online it's quite scary seeing sites like the Guardian, CNN, Al Jazeera etc say how bad it was for Biden.

I just don't understand how in such a powerful, incredible country like America, Trump and Biden are the best to offer. How? Trump has so much baggage and horrible-ness and this should be a walk in the park for Democrats. Get Newsome in. Michelle Obama would easily dismantle Trump too, imo.

 

At least Biden was honest (relatively), virtually everything Trump said was untrue.

Please Joe mate, for the sake of democracy, stand aside now.

 

I know who'd I'd vote for.

Biden vows to fight on and beat Trump after shaky debate - BBC News

 

Lawrence: We live in a country where most commentators declared the liar the debate winner (youtube.com)
Skip to 13:45.

 

It's not that simple, not by a long chalk.

 

That’s just something the right like to propagate.

A bit like the return of a dead JFK junior, and let’s not forget the good old ‘Kraken’ sea monster that was going to come and sweep Trump back into office.

The right is truly bonkers from top to bottom.

 

Did anyone take notice of their respective speeches yesterday. Biden was different again.

Also, Biden has got far better people in his government. Take a bit of time to listen to some of the debates between the representatives. The intelligence is with the left.

 

They’re not the best they have to offer, but one is deemed to have done a great job since taking over and the other one is the head of a personality cult and republicans can’t see past him.

 

It came from a respectable source discussing the possibility some months ago.

 

Does this ring any bells?
https://www.axios.com/2024/06/27/michelle-obama-private-frustration-bidens-2024-election

 

I'd vote Biden who has the least bad of the two policies to do with Ukraine.

 

No nothing to do with it....actually I didn't word it very well, it was last year (or early this) and the article was discussing the possibility of replacing Kamala Harris with Michelle Obama as running mate, the article said Obama wouldn't work under Joe Biden due to something that was said or done in the past.