New Labour Govt take note please

Yep that will stem the tide of right-wing populism in its tracks.

 

Tax the wealthy and big corporations.

 

It'll be a start, for sure.

 

We know each other's views by now.... I just think Labour will not address things adequately and the far right will consequentially benefit. I think you disagree.

 

Don't you think though, there's going to be a debate within the Tory ranks as to whether they lost so bad because they weren't far right enough, or whether it was because they were too far right? If I'm right and that debate takes place, much will depend upon who loses their seats and who retains them on Thursday. I hope Keir will be in power for more than one term (I think two would be his limit). But I'd be glad to see the One Nation Tories regaining the ascendance within their party as a degree of insurance. We are in for some very interesting times.

Oh, don't rule out rule changes in regard to how Tory leaders are selected. Their system for altering the rules is somewhat capricious. If the power to elect the leader can be wrested back away from the members then the party (and the country) might be spared the likes of Boris and Clueless in future? Much is in play, KCP!

 

You want to go to Rwanda because it will be easier for touring musicians to play gigs??

 

Nope. I think events are overtaking both main parties and we're sleepwalking into extremism. I'm not joking. Unless Labour address fundamental poverty issues we will lurch to the right big time and Farage has the nous to exploit it. Whether or not there are rule changes or certain Tories regroup is missing the point imo. There are big shifts going on and Labour and the Tories aren't dealing with them. Mark my words.

 

Like Vera Lynn entertaining the troops in Burma......

 

What's actually happened over the past 15/20 years thats causing all this right wing uprising all over Europe?

Genuine question!

 

https://www.isdglobal.org/explainers/new-world-order-explainer/

 

You're right mate and absolutely vital during the next Parliament is to implement electoral reform. Reform UK Ltd and the rump of the Tory party will merge with possibly that fascist barsteward Farridge as leader raising the prospect of him being PM in 5 or 10 years time if we don't get rid of first past the post.

Only 2 Governments since 1900 have had more than 50% of the vote (excluding coalitions), and Thatcher's biggest vote share was 43.9% and that allowed her to start the process of dismantling the state, a process carried on by successive Tory governments (Cameron; 36.8%, May; 42.3% and Johnson;43.6%). Cameron's austerity policy which may take decades to fix was on the back of only a third of the popular vote.

Vote tactically on thursday to get rid of the Tories and if that is successful in your constituency, write to the new MP and tell them that you only lent them your vote, that the electoral system is not fit for purpose and must be replaced as a matter of urgency.

 

I genuinely think the Tories could end up 4th in a lot of constituencies Brush. And maybe Reform are a nail in their coffin for right wing voters.

Like you I'd vote for any party that could keep the tories out. Except that is. Reform. I'd flit first. Afore vote for either of em.

 

First round update if anyone's interested - our village voted 49% Ensemble, 35% RN and 13% Left Alliance. RN got the biggest share of the vote at constituency level, which of course is what matters, and the Left Alliance candidate will almost certainly drop out to make it a 2-way run-off next weekend, which promises to be very tight and I suspect will go the way of RN, but that wasn't entirely unexpected and we're taking some heart that at least it looks like our immediate neighbours don't hate us, even if we're a tiny outlier in a sea of rural RN voters.

 

I think the situation at the moment is very tight for who will be the official opposition, I really really hope it is the Lib Dems who will pressure Starmer over PR - remember that the majority of Labour Members want it so Starmer should be mindful of his Party Member's views.

Where I am, South Derbyshire, it was Tory in the 80s (Edwina Currie) and went Labour under Blair. In 2010, it went back Tory with the current incumbent being the useless waste of space otherwise known as Heather Wheeler. Someone who I've been in regular email contact with for many years. I would advise everyone to contact their MP of whatever persuasion to question their position on many issues (local or national), it helps to keep their mind on the job and can have spectacular results. For example in 1983 I suffered very badly with hay fever which had got to the point where my nose was completely blocked up most of the year. I saw a specialist who put me down to have my nasal passages widened as I had very narrow ones. I got a letter shortly after saying that the waiting list was 20 months long. At the time, Edwina Curry was Junior Health Minister so I wrote to her (pen and paper back then of course) to tell her about my situation. A week or two later I got a letter from the local hospital which included a copy of her letter to them. I had the operation the following weekend.

Edit; I think I got the year wrong, it must have been about 1987 not 1983 when I had my nose job....

 

Wit c0ck art!!

 

I don't believe he commented upon that aspect of his candidacy!

 

I'll give credit where it's due.

A couple of weeks ago, I started getting a flurry of printed material from Labour. I got the same flyer/poster 3 times over a couple of days and even got a flyer for the next door constituency MP. So I decided to write to the MP through their e-mail on the flyers to say it was a bit of a waste and I'd decided not to vote Labour already, though did outline where I had voted Labour previously, why, and why not this time.

I also flagged a couple of issues locally that have gotten worse post pandemic and that the local councillor I'd been in dialogue with had gone quiet and wasn't even giving a courtesy reply anymore.

Anyway... today, even though parliament has been dissolved, I got a reply. A very long and detailed one (she may rue this in time!). And within it gave her personal commentary on what she would like to do in terms of numerous key points i raised, and in closing, stated they she couldn't do anything about the local issues at this time as she wasn't an MP at that moment, but as soon as the election was complete, if she won her seat again, and once she had been sworn in, if I could reply with the issues and she would have her team log it, give it a case number and she would look at the issues as they are in an area she didn't previously cover given the new boundary changes.

I must admit to being impressed. There are obviously party lines in the reply, but lots of personal views too and sad to say, it would have been nice to have heard some of these shared by the leader of her party or outlined in their manifesto.

I'm not easily impressed, but in this case, I'll gladly say that I am. Fair play, and I hope she gets a junior cabinet position once Thursday is done and dusted.