Biden out

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  1. thetykester

    thetykester Well-Known Member

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    Donald trump was by far THE WORST ever USA President & that is a proven fact , 100%
     
  2. Tyke The Tree-Frog

    Tyke The Tree-Frog Well-Known Member

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    Not sure that 70odd/80 million americans believe that mate:p

    It is crazy how Biden and Trump were the nominees in 2024 - I think it was around 70% of americans wanted both of them to drop out , mental numbers
     
  3. thetykester

    thetykester Well-Known Member

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    Trump will win, if he isn't killed first.


    No he will not win, the Women vote will see to that.
     
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    The world felt safer with him in charge. We had Obama who did nothing about Crimea, years of relative peace and then when Biden comes in we have the troubles with Israel and Ukraine. For all his many MANY faults he did seem to have a knack of stopping things going off around the world.
     
  5. thetykester

    thetykester Well-Known Member

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    Look at the actual facts.
     
  6. thetykester

    thetykester Well-Known Member

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    LOL
     
  7. man

    mansfield_red Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea how you have arrived at the conclusion that the identity of the president was in any way causative of the recent Israel/Gaza attacks and conflict.
     
  8. RamTam

    RamTam Well-Known Member

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    In fact the Hamas attack was almost certainly influenced by Trump recognising Jerusalem as the Israeli capital
     
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  9. thetykester

    thetykester Well-Known Member

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    I will say this, Stop calling the USA president, the leader of the free world. No He/She is not & never will be, not my leader, never was never, ever will be. being a Rep or Dem, not my leader.
     
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  10. Tyke The Tree-Frog

    Tyke The Tree-Frog Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure it's fair blaming it on Trump, 6 years after he made that decision mate. I personally don't think any president including Biden had any impact on Oct 7. I have no idea what could have been changed since the attack depending on which president, but aye. They've been fighting for god knows how long and I think its just another sad fact of the matter.
     
  11. Mr BFC88

    Mr BFC88 Well-Known Member

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    I lifted these straight off the Whitehouse.gov website. I don't like the man, I've said it countless times. But this isn't biased, they're just statements of facts as I read them.

    • America gained 7 million new jobs – more than three times government experts’ projections.
    • Middle-Class family income increased nearly $6,000 – more than five times the gains during the entire previous administration.
    • The unemployment rate reached 3.5 percent, the lowest in a half-century.
    • Achieved 40 months in a row with more job openings than job-hirings.
    • More Americans reported being employed than ever before – nearly 160 million.
    • Jobless claims hit a nearly 50-year low.
    • The number of people claiming unemployment insurance as a share of the population hit its lowest on record.
    • Incomes rose in every single metro area in the United States for the first time in nearly 3 decades.
    Delivered a future of greater promise and opportunity for citizens of all backgrounds.

    • Unemployment rates for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, veterans, individuals with disabilities, and those without a high school diploma all reached record lows.
    • Unemployment for women hit its lowest rate in nearly 70 years.
    • Lifted nearly 7 million people off of food stamps.
    • Poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached record lows.
    • Income inequality fell for two straight years, and by the largest amount in over a decade.
    • The bottom 50 percent of American households saw a 40 percent increase in net worth.
    • Wages rose fastest for low-income and blue collar workers – a 16 percent pay increase.
    • African American homeownership increased from 41.7 percent to 46.4 percent.
    Brought jobs, factories, and industries back to the USA.

    • Created more than 1.2 million manufacturing and construction jobs.
    • Put in place policies to bring back supply chains from overseas.
    • Small business optimism broke a 35-year old record in 2018.
    Hit record stock market numbers and record 401ks.

    • The DOW closed above 20,000 for the first time in 2017 and topped 30,000 in 2020.
    • The S&P 500 and NASDAQ have repeatedly notched record highs.
    Rebuilding and investing in rural America.

    • Signed an Executive Order on Modernizing the Regulatory Framework for Agricultural Biotechnology Products, which is bringing innovative new technologies to market in American farming and agriculture.
    • Strengthened America’s rural economy by investing over $1.3 billion through the Agriculture Department’s ReConnect Program to bring high-speed broadband infrastructure to rural America.
    Achieved a record-setting economic comeback by rejecting blanket lockdowns.

    • An October 2020 Gallup survey found 56 percent of Americans said they were better off during a pandemic than four years prior.
    • During the third quarter of 2020, the economy grew at a rate of 33.1 percent – the most rapid GDP growth ever recorded.
    • Since coronavirus lockdowns ended, the economy has added back over 12 million jobs, more than half the jobs lost.
    • Jobs have been recovered 23 times faster than the previous administration’s recovery.
    • Unemployment fell to 6.7 percent in December, from a pandemic peak of 14.7 percent in April – beating expectations of well over 10 percent unemployment through the end of 2020.
    • Under the previous administration, it took 49 months for the unemployment rate to fall from 10 percent to under 7 percent compared to just 3 months for the Trump Administration.
    • Since April, the Hispanic unemployment rate has fallen by 9.6 percent, Asian-American unemployment by 8.6 percent, and Black American unemployment by 6.8 percent.
    • 80 percent of small businesses are now open, up from just 53 percent in April.
    • Small business confidence hit a new high.
    • Homebuilder confidence reached an all-time high, and home sales hit their highest reading since December 2006.
    • Manufacturing optimism nearly doubled.
    • Household net worth rose $7.4 trillion in Q2 2020 to $112 trillion, an all-time high.
    • Home prices hit an all-time record high.
    • The United States rejected crippling lockdowns that crush the economy and inflict countless public health harms and instead safely reopened its economy.
    • Business confidence is higher in America than in any other G7 or European Union country.
    • Stabilized America’s financial markets with the establishment of a number of Treasury Department supported facilities at the Federal Reserve.
     
  12. RamTam

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    Maybe not but him recognising Jerusalem is a clear example of his problematic foreign policy. Everywhere that Trump engaged with in his presidency and claims victory and success - is now less stable than it was before his presidency. Russia, North Korea & Israel were all more stable before he went barreling through on his egotrip, empowering one side or another in the local disputes.

    He was also behind the Afghanistan withdrawal that Biden took the flak for.
     
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  13. stairfoot.red

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    By letting despots likes him have free rein a trump presidency puts us all at risk Putin will believe he can do anything without fear of American intervention.
     
  14. RamTam

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    When you track most of the above into the two previous terms of Obama, dating back to the recession, you realise it's a continuation of a trend of improvement in these areas (that actually tapered off during his presidency due to his erratic policies.)

    Unemployment, for example, dropped 3.3% in Obamas 2nd term but only 1.2% during Trumps term.

    It wouldn't be fair to blame Trump for the subsequent decline during Biden's term as COVID was almost certainly a huge influence.. but most financial experts agree that Trump's slow and inconsistent response to the pandemic was extremely damaging to the US economy.

    What will be the real test for Trump though will be that, if he wins this time, global economies are still in the early stages of recovery.. so there is no 'headwind' for Trump to ride. He will be required to act decisively to see any growth in the economic sectors he claims to be and expert in.
     
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    Yeah because when there are two unhinged loons with their fingers on the red button they both know the other is mad enough to retaliate. Still not sure it’s the kind of peace we want…
     
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    You do know that Trump was still the president when those stats were made available?

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/

    Just look at the first page - He refers to Covid as ‘China Virus’. He’s literally written it all himself. :)

    Not saying some of it’s not true, but I’d advise a fact check on both Trump and Bidens accomplishments.
     
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    https://www.cato.org/commentary/trumps-wars
     
  18. Tyke The Tree-Frog

    Tyke The Tree-Frog Well-Known Member

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    Double post sorry
     
  19. Mr BFC88

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    Well it's been up there to be scrutinised for nearly four years. And I'm sure the democrats would've loved to have torn it to shreds given the chance...which they've had....for four years.

    He can call COVID whatever he likes, chances are it did come from Wuhan, China. So technically, he's right in that regard too I suppose.

    As someone who dislikes them both, all I can see from Biden is that he's allowed the Country to be flooded with illegal immigrants and put their lives at risk doing so, along with the border forces, people resident in the areas being crossed into and a massive burden on the welfare, health and benefit system.

    Trump's a misogynistic pig, but prior to COVID, the Country was quite clearly booming. Not to mention the fact he somehow managed to negotiate a peace agreement with that actual lunatic in North Korea, and didn't actively start a conflict, which isn't easy to say about a President in modern times.
     
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    Can I ask where you get your information from
    If you’ve missed the Dems scrutinising Trumps claims for the last 4 years? Also did you know that Trump was recently rated the worst Pres in American history?

    Just have a trawl through this lot. It’s the BBC, so it’s neither Dem or Republican

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/55730719

    There’s loads of stuff on the net to get your teeth into. Including Bidens own accomplishments, which are very impressive.
     
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