Keir Starmer

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    Well, I stand corrected. I’m happy to learn that the UK government does not directly sell arms to Israel.
     
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    Suspended for having a mind of their own and not sucking up to the boss with something they don't believe in.

    Far better than the Tory MPs that towed the party line with Boris on lots of ridiculous restriction votes during the pandemic.
     
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    Given the lack of resources in the country/world, we actually need fewer children long term - although it is around 2040 IIRC when we hit the inflection point when the ratio of pensioners to workers starts to decrease in UK. So short-term there is an issue.

    Childbirth is a surprisingly dangerous activity and leads to life-altering or ending consequences for too many women each year - about 90 women per year die from direct or indirect causes in UK (13.41/100000 pregnancies). This rate has increased over the last few years. Fewer births would allow better medical treatment and reduce the mortality rate - and reduce the long-term demand for resources. And as someone who saw their wife suddenly go into a medical emergency during labour - one that would have killed one or both of them 50-60 years earlier - there is nothing scarier than seeing that happen.
     
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    I genuinely don't understand how some people have the gall to expect others to fund them having more than two kids.
     
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    You would receive other benefits in that case.

    Do you have any children?
     
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    The problem with socialism is you always run out of other people's money.
    I work for the Tax man 2 days a week as it is, I don't mind. But there'll always be more things that need money then money available. Scrapping it would cost over £3 billion. The credit is worth over £3k a year as it is, so 2 kids gets you £6k. It was an amendment introduced by the SNP with their huge mandate ( sarcasm) - obviously they know it wasn't going to pass, they are the ones playing daft political point scoring.
     
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    Have I missed something here? I have one child, so get £104 a month in child benefit. £1148 a year, not £3k.
     
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    Again I had a large family I brought up more than 2 kids when they were young sometimes me and my wife would make sacrifices I would work 5/6 days a week she would work evenings. I would have liked to have had more kids but money and age stopped me. I never thought well if the government gave more put in handouts I could. To have a big family was my choice. The problem is housing and cosy of living sort that and people will have bigger families. You give handouts as a incentive you end up back in the Blair days of people having kids for a payrise and the handouts society.
     
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    No I meant 2022 ha! Got my years completely muddled up. I’ll edit it
     
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    The cap has but it’s only become a major issue in recent times as more & more people are plunged into poverty by the huge increases in cost of living
     
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    I have one child. Due to our ages and the difficulties encountered it was not possible for us to have more.
     
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    Good luck to everyone who's got a family, its hard an its gunner get harder, i'm glad mine are grown up cost of everything t'day, like i say good luck everyone, the memories are well worth it.
     
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    It simply can't be tolerated for seven MP's to freelance like this in the face of a King's Speech fully commensurate with the programme outlined in the manifesto. It would be a signal to all 412 Labour members that they can do what the hell they like. It's all the more idiotic because the main players have signaled their willingness to ditch this limit when they feel the circumstances are right. I hope that Long-Bailey is swiftly shown the door permanently. She was given a (shadow) front bench role early in Keir's leadership but proved then that she couldn't hold the party line. All seven should have resigned the Labour whip before voting as they did last night. But that would have required them to have acted honorably.
     
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    Was Sir Keith acting ‘honourably’ when he made 10 pledges during his leadership campaign before sacking off every single one the moment he got the job?
     
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    Labour has a hierarchy of racism and a recent history of targeting black members. However that’s not the point I made the point was if Corbyn had suspended 4 Jewish members for any reason He would have been crucified.
     
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    Genuine question, what do you think Starmer's weaknesses are? What has he got wrong in the last 5 years?

    I struggle to debate when it seems he can do no wrong in your eyes.

    Apologies it's directed at you personally and if you don't wish to respond then that's fair enough.
     

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