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Tesla drivers are generally just as bad - if not worse.

We regularly hear drivers ramming their little cars through the gears on the DV Parkway - its a mile away from the house - as they try to get to the roundabout a couple of seconds quicker. Does anyone know if it makes them feel less inadequate?

 

You have hit the nail on the head there not just young people bmw,,Audi drivers think they own the road and poor you if they deem that your holding them up.
I had a dash cam installed last week ,not safe too many idiot drivers on the road.

 

I don’t think there’s any age limit or gender basis to stupidity. Having driven Audis, Mercs and BMW’s it’s probably not fair to generalise there either, although I know what you mean. We are currently being plagued by young lads flying around on off-road bikes, no helmets, tragedies waiting to happen. No police around to stop them, parents appearing to facilitate them.

 

I am going to own up and say that in previous times, I sometimes drove above the limit. Not hooning it everywhere, but like a lot of people, not worrying whether I was 5-10 miles above the limit. 50 in a 40, that sort of thing.

I got caught by a mobile unit in 2019 and got sent on a speed awareness course and I thought it was excellent. Completely changed my outlook. I don't know if it ties in with getting an EV as well in 2020, as you do temper your excesses in an EV, because given the smaller range, you are conscious of the effect that aggressive driving has on the range, and I now drive with efficiency in mind. But putting that to one side, that course was a revelation and I would say now that I drive within limits pretty much all the time.

I believe that people should be able to choose to go on one, without having been instructed to do so because they have been caught speeding. Or people should all be compelled to do one, regardless of whether they have been caught or not. It wouldn't change some people's behaviour, but it did mine, and would do for others as well.

I also think, and have been saying for a while, that we should have a fleet of unmarked civilian cars with camera tech in them to catch offences, like they do in France. And not just because, if they were introduced, I would apply for the job - ideal wind down to retirement job. The problem is that, with the best will in the world, we will never have enough police to be everywhere. When the police do spot an offence, it takes them 30-40 minutes to stop the car, talk to them and process a ticket, so they only get through a few a day. And with fixed units, many people's in car tech tells them where the cameras are, so they are free to drive like a lunatic when there is no camera. Apps with crowd sourced info, like Waze, will even tell you where the mobile units are.

The camera cars in France have apparently had a large beneficial effect on standards of driving because, well, you don't know where they are, so you have to behave, all the time, and it becomes second nature.

 

There’s a similar sort of thing with Operation Snap. Basically, members of the public are encouraged to submit dashcam footage or mobile phone footage of bad driving. I submitted a video of someone on their phone on the M1 and got a response a week or so later saying that they have been charged. You do have to say you’d be willing to go to court if needed but I absolutely would have, she was on it for about 10 minutes, hogging the middle lane without a clue of what was going on around her.

 

These as well, but try working around Leeds and Bradford you'll see a big proportion of 18- 25 years driving wreckless on an hourly basis trust me its riddled with the problem

 

I actually think there's unfair bias towards BMW and Audi drivers, simply because they're very common on our roads now. I drive the same road to and from work every day, following the speed limit, and leaving enough room between me and the car in front, and encounter at least 1 instance of poor driving every day. The make and model of car and gender and age of driver changes daily, unless I'm unfortunate enough to experience the same person more than once.

 

Thats why i was put off learning to drive back in 2017. Gave it up and now rely on buses for travel. Train journeys are better anyway

 

It would be remiss to use the word "All" but there's quite a high proportion of these makes of cars due to their performance capabilities driven at ridiculous speeds.
Now I'm not saying other cars aren't as its down to the individuals but their reputation does stack up if you drive 20-25k miles a year like I do and see it on a daily basis around the U.K
The newest fad at the minute seems to be using lane 1 of motorways to undertake because lane 3 is busy and not moving at 3 figure speeds

 

In my opinion it's the grey haired brigade who scare me. No awareness of other vehicles and in a world of their own. followed an old guy round locked park to ward green at 18 mph recently and saw one old lass stop dead on huddersfield road despite it being her right of way ..caused havoc. Heart goes out to the families of the victims of the crash.

 

Number of folk who don't know how to use a roundabout is scary too. Either just pull straight out or sit there, waiting for everyone else to move first.

 

I don't think anyone bombing about like an idiot is thinking about the sentencing guidelines for causing death by dangerous driving.

 

If you want to murder someone, use a car, you'll be out in 5 years tops.

 

The Police do operate unmarked traffic vehicles as you have described(or at least they do in Lincs).
Edit- misread this part, you weren’t referring to Police cars.
Slightly different to your speed awareness course, I took my HGV after about 20 years of having a licence and it made me so much aware of others driving and my impact on other drivers to the extent I would reccomend they made it compulsory that a new car driver had to spend some time with either a HGV/LGV or Bus driver.

For those talking about typical bad drivers, you do see the typical German car drivers but for me it tends to be the young girls whom are the worst drivers, not so much speed but general awareness.

 

I was on a roundabout today, they'd put temp traffic lights on it, so we we waiting out turn, 2 cars in front of me. Lights go green and the first car proceeds to the roundabout and takes it normally in the clockwise manner we all know, the car directly in front of me decided he'd go anti-clockwise around the roundabout....if I'd not seen him do it, I wouldn't have believed it, as I am the next car and both of us are going straight on I was then heading for the same single track road from the opposite(correct) side of the roundabout, I just stopped on the roundabout to let this maniac do whatever the fk it was he was doing.

 

Cutting in on dual carriageways annoys me. Southgate Pontefract. The right hand lane is towards Castleford and the left hand lane is for Wakefield. Yet people drive down the right hand lane as if they're going towards Castleford because there's less traffic and cut back across at the end to go over the roundabout to Wakefield.

 

I hate being on roads full stop, and like you, decided I never wanted to learn. The sheer amount of traffic and proportion of idiots on the road is a huge factor in my decision. My wife drives, but I walk as many places as I can. I walk from Wilthorpe to my dentist in Cudworth and back every 6 months or so. Bang some music on phone or a podcast. Does me good. Town is close enough obviously, work too, Oakwell at 45 mins each way, doddle.

 

I’d say my grey-haired driving is a great deal safer than that of the morons careering around Dodworth at the moment. Drive down the High Street at 25-30mph and you invariably get some idiot tailgating you. As I said in my previous post, age is no barrier to idiocy, but perhaps age does bring a degree of wisdom!

 

There is a lot of indicate right then left when going straight on at a roundabout see em everyday,who taught them to drive?

 

I take it back. We have police!!