Anyone else seen the alternative angle of the police airport incident?

With respect R. If that was any fight, tensions and emotions are all over the place. How many would be let off lightly in the same scenario. Booting someone in the head while lying prone and still, appearing to have been knocked out. Would be a stiffer sentence than affray or Abh. Closer to Gbh in this incident.
I have no sympathy for the perpetrators and they should be banged up for some considerable time. But so should the officer. Red rage or not. They are given tasers and batons and in most airports guns, ( if he'd been armed with a knife or other weapon I'd have shot the bugger) but not Doc Martin's. He overstepped the mark, poetically.

I see this in a bigger but similar light to the incident outside the railway station. When we played wendy.

 

Both parties are wrong one should be sorted in court and the other in a discipline hearing. Right or wrong I have always dived in when the police need help, even when I don't know the situation.

 

That’s why we’re not police. How can it possibly be legal for police to kick someone who has already been restrained in the head? Who decides which situation means they are allowed to do it and which don’t, or can they just kick anyone they arrest in the head from now on?

 

He kinda did.

He implied the kick to the head on the prone immobilised guy was a deterrent.

 

Good, non-judgemental explanation of the rules for police in such a situation from an ex copper (on twitter):
https://t.co/Ji9rlK6jFF

 

^^^ This' i don't think there was ever any doubt that the bloke had committed an offence and a policewoman had been injured but its the polices duty to arrest him and charge him by the book' the fact still remains that the guy was face down and compliant at the time of the assault on him and if we're saying that its acceptable for the police to act in this way we're setting a dangerous precident.

 

This bit seems particularly important

 

Just watched it.
I'm sure the lad in blue is an absolute piece of s**t.
That's irrelevant. The video shows him lying face down on the floor with his arms down by his sides. A threat to nobody at that point. Then the policeman kicks him in the head.
That's inexcusable. If we had a police force filled with people who are professionals then that should never happen no matter what the provocation.
Unfortunately we don't.

 

I got criticised on here for saying police in harehills should have been more heavy handed. If you go hitting police you deserve all you get many other countries you would be shot.

 

Once you put that uniform on you have a responsibility to rise above any temptation to act in a unprofessional manner regardless of the situation. The full rights and wrongs we are not in position to judge that's why we have courts of law hopefully those in the wrong will feel the full weight of it.

 

Courts of law who hand out slapped wrists like confetti…….theres **** all déterrant in this country anymore, folk of all colours and religions do exactly as they please and do you know why………they know the police won’t do sod all……..my dad often tells me that when they were kids the kids were terrified of the local bobby, scared for a clip around the ear……..kids these days haven’t an ounce of respect

 

If you watch the context video then the chap who ends up on the floor was previously restrained/in the process of being arrested twice, only to break free and attack people. I can understand how, having been hurt as a consequence at least once already, and having seen his colleagues assaulted, the officer who is accused of excessive force might be fired up and ‘wanting to make sure’.

 

Their solicitor should be arrested for encouraging public disorder by playing the race card. What do you think would have happened to that little rat if he’d attacked a police officer at Karachi airport? He’d have got a good kicking there, then taken to the police cells and given another kicking, thrown into jail within the week to get some more kickings.
We should expect a different set of behaviours from our police then in Pakistan, but let’s not pretend it’s “racism” when he’d be getting soundly beaten in most non-white countries for pulling that sht at an airport.

 

That belongs in the thread about phrases that allude to stupidity. I'm definitely going to start using it. "You know Mark don't you, drives a red Land-Rover, a bit restrained in the head."

 

That’s exactly how I see it.

I noticed a few videos of unrelated attacks on police by Asian youths on Facebook yesterday, as if to make some mitigating point and I also saw the video of the Manchester incident on GB NEWS, which showed the police being attacked, but cut away before the tasered bloke was kicked, which is more than a tad biased, but from that source I’m not surprised.

The reality is there is fault on both sides.

 

Random, unprovoked attacks on citizens? Certainly not.

If the police themselves are getting a good shoeing, whilst trying to do their job then that is a totally different situation. These police officers were under attack and probably didn't know if a knife or any other weapon would be used against them. Very easy to sit behind a keyboard and say what 'should' be done.

If that was your daughter that had her nose broke I would hope ud av done alot worse than the copper. I would have.

 

I don't disagree but what's the alternative when I was at school we still had corporal punishment it never did me any harm as I had the common sense to tow the line and never had it. But them days are long gone and will never return and if we don't trust the system as in the courts of law what's the alternative it maybe far from ideal but I cant think of a sensible alternative.

 

The other factor though is he wasn’t attacking ordinary police in the street he was attacking armed police in an airport - generally around the world you do that and it’s a one way ticket to getting pew pewed.

 

I honestly don’t know and more worryingly those in power both now and before don’t too……..it’s an awful predicament …….ultimately In situations like this it’s usually innocent people who get caught up in backlash’s from different sides and that’s what’s sad In all this…….

 

No, if someone broke my daughter's nose and they were restrained on the floor I probably wouldn't boot and stamp on their head with force that could realistically kill them.

In any event, why is that relevant to the standards of behaviour to which police should be held?