JAQ Article

Can’t believe this far in and I think your the first to comment on that, personally I think the difference in colour is awful.

 

I think that's because the colour mismatch was mentioned more in the kit launch threads. It really looks absolutely awful and I'm genuinely shocked that it got signed off on

 

I’ll say it again the women’s team did not request the red shorts. I know this as a fact

 

No, but the article is about Women’s football that’s why she done the interview/article. TBF as well JAQ hasn’t claimed they did she has just said they didn’t want white shorts.

 

It really isn’t the first post mentioning it

 

I'm pretty sure the shorts are colour matched to the stars on the shirt and the trim at the end of the sleeves.

Not saying that's a good design choice, just that's how I see it.

 

There are some interesting posts and stances. I think the first thing to say is I haven't seen anyone suggest having red shorts for the women is a bad thing. I don't see any comments running down the womens team or their need to be comfortable when they play.

Secondly, D&I... Which nowadays tends to sit under ESG. This area is about inclusivity and sustainability and is generally built on engagement with all stakeholders. Others can tell me how inclusive and engaging the club have been, but given key supporters trust people are making comment and very reasoned fair people are, its perhaps safe to assume no dialogue with fan base or stakeholders has taken place.

But is this a sustainable kit? Where was it manufactured, what materials were used and where sourced, what dye origins, how were they transported, are those making the kit fairly paid and treated? If we care about D&I, do we care about sustainability and environment? From brief glimpses I'd say not.

Brand and identity. There's been a lot of talk down the years of building on our brand. Part of that brand is the first team, mens, for the vast majority have worn white shorts and the red shirt has generally had white trim.

So to go away from that to literally ignore white anywhere bar kit manufacturer, rose and sponsor is rare. Thats not based on innovation, history, fan preference, brand... Just as the poxy stars... Its a designers whimsy. Nothing more, nothing less. And not only are sponsors different, but positioning of manufacturer and logo are different across the home, third and away kit. Thats not typically how you flow a brand. So there are multiple differences, across mens and womens, and across home, third and away. Given all these variances, there's little to stand in the way of short colour variance.

And I've said, as have others that much of what she's said is just gibberish. It makes no sense, it just doesn't. And it clashes with other choices. If shorts have to be dark, why not black? If black makes women hot, it does men too... And we've had plenty of black/very dark away kits. And if heat is increased by black shorts, surely it is a very significant issue for men given the impact on fertility?

So overall I see a fait accompli foisted on the kit with zero engagement of the fan base and a very flimsy non sensical interview to cover the fact hers and the designers personal subjective choices are above debate and discussion.

If you want to be inclusive, if you want to engage... Survey the fans now and ask them if they want the men's first team to have white shorts next season. Simple.

 

Glad you put three apeth worth and not three inches worth.

 

Why not just swap the the shorts with the white shorts on the away kit then the away kit would be a reverse of the home kit.

 

White shirts, black shorts.
Ronnie Glavin, Trev, Ian Banks, Derrick Parker, Mick Mccarthy etc.
That's what you call a nod to our history.

 

Can this be put forward by the new FAB. Nail on head.

Who is brave enough

 

Is it true that scarfs will be all red from next season.

 

JAQ has collaborated with Puma and a successful artist / fashion designer to come up with a new kit design.
Some of our fan base may not like it, I like it and moving in to 2025 we should support /envourage a renowned fashion designer getting involved in designing our kits.
If we have any of these on here then I'm open to that, who on here is a fashion designer, who have you worked with, what's your background in fashion design and what's your collections called, I would love to see it. Let's put you forward for next season.

Someones opinion of not quite liking the differing red colours between the shirt and the shorts is no more relevant than someone who does.
Just because some don't like it doesnt mean it's a awful design.
Maybe some on here commenting from what I've seen around town may be have a few fashion issues themselves and maybe not best positioned to be giving serious fashion design tips.

 

Yes, we are also removing the white Barnsley seats from ESL, as now defunct

 

No fear of a reprimand aimed at the East Stand!

 

Chien Lee still has a stake in the club. We play in all red as a symbol of communist Chinese values. Women wear red, men wear red and we're all equal.

 

Yes because there was too much chance of women sticking them down their pants.

 

It's the nunny state . (Apologies in advance for the light sexism but if this is true it's a joke).

 

I suspect some of the time the men will wear the grey away shorts with the home shirt.