Imane Khelif

I don't have any but it can easily be obtained.

 

Agreed the stuff I read after it all came to a head was sketchy at best.
But that in itself creates uncertainty making any legal action against individuals very difficult I would i think.

 

I mean it would be enjoyable to watch all the accused declare their allegiance to a Russian state controlled, discredited body as part of their defence

 

It wouldn't play out that with lawyers involved

 

I don't understand why highly followed people publicly shoot off their opinions about these issues. It offers nothing and it can only hurt. It's a psychopathic mindset with no empathy. We're all coming to terms with changing views on gender and so on. A lot has changed in recent decades and its left some who have grown up with one set of beliefs a little skeptical. And that's fine. There maybe is no right and wrong. Just a wrong way to behave. So why the need to wail about something that doesn't affect them.

I'm talking about the tweeters here, not you lot on here discussing the fallout by the way.

 

Why shouldnt famous women tweet about things that affect women's sports?

 

I think tweeting something as aggressive as JK did without having any established facts is a long way out of line. As with the recent free speech arguments, she's welcome to post it, but she should have to face consequences if it is provably false and the person she directly attacked decides to take action.. Is JKs influence causing some of her supporters to hurl abuse and threats at Khelif much better than those who incited the riots also based on provably false information?

And how does something like that post affect teen girls who have been badly bullied and told they look like boys growing up?

 

The kids are from artificial insemination

 

Mmm, rape and death threats to women who have questioned the IOC stance plus a lot of abusive language lovely person, bitch etc etc.

 

That's horrendous and the perpetrators also should be identified and punished accordingly.

However, I'm not sure whataboutism justifies JKs decision to pick on a single woman without any level of evidence or understanding of the situations.

 

She would definitely win a defamation case if she took it forward under UK law. Rowling described her as a ‘man that likes beating up women”. In a civil case in the UK the burden of proof would be 100 on Rowling to prove both elements of that accusation. I suspect any lawyer would insist she settled out of court and apologised as it’s an unwinable case.

Don’t know enough about French criminal law to know if it will get pursued or is defendable.

 

in this country in a defamation case the onus is on those who have made defamatory statements to prove their validity I think French law differs.

 

I think the “tests” were more about letting the Russian win and they didn’t care about the fall out.

 

I'm not so sure as you on that one.

 

Do you think it is possible for Rowling to prove that she had the factual information at hand when she said “he is a man who enjoys hitting women”. I’m guessing as no one else has seen this IBA report she hadn’t. Also proving that she enjoys hitting women will be almost impossible. French criminal law may well be very different. But UK defamation law is pretty straightforward.

 

Think it's to do with Lech Wałęsa. And broccoli. Or summat.

 

I suppose we'll see what happens. I know I miss judged it and didn't take the time to read up properly. The difference i suppose being I'm willing to admit it.

 

We'll have to see how it all plays out.

 

How would you feel if I started referring to you as He, Him etc. despite knowing those are not your pronouns until you show proof you have XX chromosomes?

Not great I'd imagine.

 

If I was a boxer it's more pertinent though? If biological males are allowed in the ring against biological women it could end very badly. And there's not much consolation in " lessons will be learned"