Imane Khelif

JKR is the very opposite of misogynistic surely!?

 

I think that circles back to the definition of women. If you believe trans women are women she is. If you believe they are men she is not.

Either way she's an abusive d*ckhead. That's on record

 

This entire thread is about her getting sued for abusing a woman for not fitting her ever changing definition of what a woman is.

That’s misogyny by any definition of the word.

 

It really isn't. There are many women who are being affected by this decision, and that is who she's sticking up for. Being told by men that she shouldn't on the other hand....

 

“Sticking up for women” by hurling abuse at another woman.

What a model feminist. Such a role model.

She’s just as evil as Andrew Tate and just as much of a bigot.

 

What decision are you referring to?

 

I'm really surprised by you on this subject to be honest. I wouldn't have expected it, from what I've read she has proven she was born a female so I'm not sure how anything JK Rowling and co have said can be justified?

 

As I understand it no proof has been given other than the passport? If I've missed something else I'd appreciate being pointed in the right direction.

 

The decision to be at the Olympics after previously being banned from women's boxing.

 

"While representatives of the fighters and the IOC insist the fighters were “born women, raised as women and always competed as women”, critics, including some of their opponents at Paris 2024, have speculated that perhaps the fighters have DSD."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crlr8gp813ko

 

Such a good role model for young girls that she published her books under JK to make it not appear a woman wrote them and then used Robert Galbraith as a pseudonym? (Robert Galbraith Heath was an anti-LGBTQ+ conversion therapist).

 

It is rare, but there is a developmental condition called Persistent Mullerian Duct Syndrome that affects a small number of boys and is often only detected when they start having periods. The usual treatment for this is hysterectomy. It is technically incorrect to say that only women can menstruate.

https://www.webmd.com/children/persistent-mullerian-duct-syndrome

 

Shame that that was the only way she felt the books would be accepted as a woman author was by using initials.
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They were never banned. They were disqualified from 1 tournament by the IBA on the back of extremely vague statements about a gender test fail. There was no ban that followed it up.

They 1st said the tests were inconclusive and that this was the 2nd such test result for both athletes having previously both been tested in 2022 - this was never disclosed to either athlete at the time.

The IBA then held a board meeting where they stated, on record, that they needed to establish gender eligibility criteria as they had none - despite having already disqualified the 2 athletes.

Then in Paris after the Italian girl commented, the IBA started referring to it as a failed gender test -something they had never done before.

Then they held the press conference about Khelif where the Russian claimed she failed a testosterone test, the British guy claimed she failed a chromosome test but that didn't mean she was genetically male, then the doctor they brought (who has never been heard from before or since) said she was genetically male. They also claimed the lab was WADA approved which is odd as WADA labs don't perform sex tests.

The IBA have still failed to confirm what kind of test was taken and what the actual result was

I don't think it's remotely fair to say they were banned or that the onus is on them to prove their sex.

 

I feel like that’s making my point more accurate?

The outrage about “people who menstruate” being used has always been stupid and the transphobes getting mad about that being used instead of “woman” is oversimplifying the term and how it’s used.

 

I’m not surprised in the slightest unfortunately. Helen has been continuously bigoted against trans people on here in the past. Not just when talking about sports either.

It was surprising when she did so for the first time, but now it’s a pattern unfortunately. A real shame that someone who’s otherwise so nice is so hateful on this one issue.

 

Since there are less than 250 cases in medical literature, replacing women by people who menstruate seems like the epitome of using a sledgehammer to crack nuts!

 

Strangely, I've had conversations with 2 of them.

 

Interesting, were they related to each other?

 

That's not what has happened.

She was never banned from boxing.

The IBA, a disgraced organisation, banned her from boxing in their sanctioned competitions. They claimed to have tested her and she failed the tests. When asked what these tests were they seemed unsure, claiming at one time they were gender tests then at another hormone tests. When asked to produce the results they were unable to do so. When they named the organisation that carried out the tests that organisation released a statement stating that they do not conduct gender testing or testing for sex hormones.

Khelif has never been banned from boxing, she was prevented from boxing under licence of an entirely corrupt organisation.

There wasn't a decision for the Olympic committee to make.

And no one has ever produced any evidence that she's anything other than a woman, from birth.