Red light camera

Saturday morning I received a letter through the post, it's from South Yorkshire police. I have been accused of going through a red light in Sheffield, to my confusion & also my brother and my friend who were with me that night.. all of us claiming that there is zero chance of that happening because we would have clearly noticed the error. Anyway I have looked at the evidence provided.

My car is the one on the right

 

I got one a few weeks back. Video of me overtaking a cyclist from his own camera. I still don’t know what I did wrong, I wasn’t speeding and I gave him plenty of room, but he angrily raised his arm, so that must be enough to summons me. Mind boggles

 

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Probably the same camera operator from the Crawley game at the weekend

 

Wow, that was terrible. Glad someone else noticed.

 

Yours looks ok to me. One on the left may have jumped the gun a little. Seen a lot worse hundreds of times. (Id ask to see a Video not stills) may show you over the white line afore it changes to green. If so still extremely harsh.

 

No video evidence, only still photo.

 

Got to be worth a challenge mate. I reckon you'd have a great chance of beating the charge.

 

The costs are not worth it mate .
Bite the bullet do the course.
If you don't get one offered ,ring the ticket office and ask for the course.
£90 Quid , 3 hour course better than the points.
5 years of loaded insurance plus 100 quid fine.

 

Why would I admit to something I haven't done though?

 

To see the video evidence it would have to go to court .
Cost you a lot of grief and money.
Your choice.

 

Does look close but the camera will trip when you cross the line.

 

Just to be clear here, is the suggestion that (a) you were amber gambling as the lights turned to red or (b) you jumped the gun as they were turning from red back to green?

If (a) then its clearly wrong as you are through them on green.

If its (b) then it's inconclusive because there is no shot of you breaking the line with it not yet on green. But given your position, its hard to think you jumped the gun, although it's less clear cut for the car on the left. It strikes me that the camera triggered for the guy on the left and they have just sent you both a ticket.

Must admit, when I can see there is a camera, I don't budge until the light is green.

Edit: in fact the second shot shows you not over the line until the light was green. Got to be grounds for an appeal, just depends on whether you are up for the fight.

 

I didn't budge until the light was fully green, 100%

The guy on the left was in a race with himself, when it comes to Sheffield I'm cautious more than ever

 

The photo with amber light on it shows it is over the white line as the front bumper is clearly over and the legislation quotes as any part of the car breaking the white line.
Sounds and feels harsh and hopefully if they appeal are succesful.

 

I am convinced that the camera has tripped for the guy on the left and they have mistakenly sent tickets to both cars. If they are issuing tickets for the cm or so your bonnet was over the line at the amber stage they would be issuing hundreds a day.

 

Tbh mate. Knowing what Bazza did for a living I'd value his advice over most others unless there are any solicitors on here know better, seeing the evidence.
I genuinely didnt know there was a course for this type of offence. I did a speed awareness one. Ask Baz lol. And the stupid comment I made for a laugh not really thinking.
But it wouldnt hurt I suppose to request more sound evidence as to what appears to be a charge of ambler gambling. Very flimsy. Imo. And a word or two. Over the counter so to speak may work. I got off with a parking offence once due to a misunderstanding.

The car on the left in the stills is in no doubt. Imo.

 

Does look extremely harsh mate. But I would love to see the video as it's not conclusive in the stills. anyone should at least be given that to make an informed decision. Or surely it opens the gates for false charges. Not sure why they would, only to fill the coffers. Most would not challenge I admit and maybe that is an issue.

 

my thoughts looking at that were that it looks like you stopped at the lights, you were maybe just over the line by a smidge, but who usually notices that, main thing is you stopped and your only error wouldn't be an issue, then the other car shot off dropping you in the mire.
I absolutely hate cameras for that, its like if you are in the outside lane just under the limit but can't get back in because a car behind you coming up too fast then they shoot past and undertake leaving it looking like you could be speeding too

 

Absolutely great result. Drove to Maltby police station where they sort the ticket processing etc. Spoke to a manager, they couldn't apologise enough. "Technical error" & have no idea why it's happened.