Todays the Day we release the prisoners

The one in York nearly done I think few thousand inmates.

 

https://x.com/kayburley/status/1833430500830044465?s=61&t=oi6UkxQucQP_ChLN0xX81A

How quickly they forget that they were running the country, albeit into the ground, for 14 years. The audacity of this gimp.

 

Labour looking after the work shy and wrong ens.

 

Well I don't think it takes a specialist in this area to see that just letting prisoners go early doesn't solve the problem. If it did it wouldn't need to be revisited every so often. So realistically the government should be 1. Working to ensure crime is reduced (not increase and they catch more). Deterrents, education etc. 2. Ensure laws not only serve the rehabilitation but are a deterrent 3. Get rid of laws that add noise to the system, example maybe if Weed was legal it would be one less thing to administer through the legal system, after all medical cannabis seems to be accepted 4. Build more prisons. 5. Send em to Australia - we of course like to revisit the past to find our solutions ;-)

 

You can make some bad decisions in such a short time of course !!

 

Nobody was sent to prison for shouting at a police dog.

Somebody was sent to prison for returning to a protest after being arrested and released for breach of the peace. After he returned, he threw objects at the police, shouted racist abuse and was involved in public order offences. He also has been convicted 22 times for 43 offences in the last 15 years.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/man-released-police-went-back-9496337

 

Go on then, what is your solution to the prisons being at full capacity?

 

And how long are you giving them to do that, and what do they do in the meantime?

 

I've said it a million times but we need to reform prisons so they rehabilitate prisoners and equip them to function once they come out. It's proven to lower reoffending rates and the number of prisoners. Sadly it will never happen over here due to reactionary idiots who think it's somehow in society's interest to punish prisoners and leave them in a worse place coming out than they were going in, and then act shocked and disgusted when they reoffend.

 

That’s not necessarily correct. We are currently building some in Scotland. Pop up ones could be constructed as an interim measure for low risk prisoners. As for objections. Like the building ones they can be ignored if there is political will.

 

Deffo freezing pensioners and starving kids are hard decisions rather than a wealth tax on billionaires. Go Labour.

 

The Nordic model where. Less serious criminals are on licence waiting for a prison place to open up would have been the answer to some of the those convicted of minor offences during the riots.

and a change in mindset
How Norway turns criminals into good neighbours https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-48885846

 

Excuse me. He’s not my mate. I don’t hang around with folk like that. I’d read what I wrote properly before trying to tar me.

I think you’re making the mistake of thinking I’m defending him.

My point is I don’t believe someone like him should be locked up if it means a rapist, woman beater, drug dealer, peado etc is let out earlier than they would have been if we had more prison space.

If we have the prison space then lock them all up. If we don’t then let’s use our brains a bit more.

 

Pretty sure rapists and paedophiles aren’t on the list for early release, but my point was going to be:

Is it more important to keep a man locked up for the last month of his 5 year sentence or to get someone who committed a crime last week locked up?

I’d argue after 4 and a half years of a 5 year sentence you’re either already rehabilitated/unlikely to re-offend or you’re not.

Letting you out days or weeks or even a couple of months early isn’t going to make a difference.

 

I'd stick these prisoners on a massive barge rife with dysentry like we did with them foreigners.

That would solve the problem.

 

Firstly prison should serve as a deterant and justice to the victim. I don't think con's should get any preferential treatment over your average civillian on release.
And you can only rehabiltate those who want it, some chose a life of crime, also last time i saw around half of those in u.k jails alhave a drug addiction you would have to sort that in most cases before having a chance to rehabilitate those.

 

From what i understand; most of those being released have served 40% or so of their sentence. Don't a lot normally get released after serving 50%?

 

How's prison as a deterrent working out? Not great by the looks of things.

 

What makes you think the types you mentioned are getting early release. Lower tariff offences are the ones considered. And the ones mentioned below.

Copied as announced yesterday I believe.

On 22 October the scheme will be expanded to include offenders serving fixed sentences of more than five years. The plan excludes offenders jailed for violent offences with sentences of at least four years, as well as sex offenders and domestic abusers

5 yrs doesnt mean those recently convicted but more so those coming to the end of their sentence.