Todays the Day we release the prisoners

It's not were letting everyone out

 

Well giving everyone longer sentences isn't going to solve overcrowding, is it?

 

You ignored what I put in the 1st reply to try push your own point. Like I said, no prisoners on release should get preferential treatment over ordinary folk, many people chose a life of crime and don't want rehabilitation over half of inmates have drug addictions that's where alot of the root cause of crime lies.

 

I think (in the current climate) the man from Barnsley who I spoke about getting 2 years 4 months is excessive when he’s never offended before & has a young family. We aren’t talking about a career criminal. If it was me that’s someone who needs a suspended sentence & the fright of his life that if he does offend again within a time frame he will serve a 2 years 4 month sentence.

Now this is a guy who I want behind bars

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/new...news/man-indecent-images-images-court-9535099

If you’re attracted to children that isn’t changing. You can’t rehabilitate nonces in my opinion.

If we are short on prison cells then this is a guy that should be filling one over a rioter who didn’t injure one or steal anything or set anything alight etc.

 

That’s good to hear. My mistake for going with word of mouth.

 

The starting point for Category A images/videos is 26 weeks - 2 years and Cat is a a community order - 26 weeks. However, he only had 1 Cat A video and 2x Cat C - so a small number of offensive images, no criminal record, pled guilty (1/3 off) and had no previous criminal record.

Compare this to, for example, our former BBS member who had 1300+ images *after already serving a sentence for a similar offence*. Which of the two is more deserving of prison?

Then take that comparison to the boy from Barnsley who was a rioter who was throwing objects with the intent to hurt emergency service workers and was shouting offensive slogans in public. You don't mention his name, but all those I've seen from Barnsley that were sentenced were convicted of violent disorder and were lucky not to get 5 years.

 

According to The Guardian, the Treasury civil servants have a pre prepared series of options to cut, they have offered the last few incoming Prime Ministers this as a preferred option , but have been turned down.

 

Id argue throwing things and shouting abuse has hurt someone.

 

I bet they will be a few pensioner's throwing things and hurling abuse this winter hoping for jail so they can keep warm

 

My uber tory father in law who's on a final salary pension and therefore vastly over the threshold was complaining about having his allowance taken off him by "that s***head". Seeing he's in a care home and isn't eligible, I'm not sure his complaints were warranted.

 

Many won't be so lucky.

 

Many will be, and will use it as opportunity to complain regardless.

 

those millionaire pensioners you’ve been giving £300 of your money to?

really strange tfe way the right wing have suddenly become empathetic about hoping people when they’ve been so vocal about “people stealing benefits” for years.

 

If the Tories had done this the same posters defending it would be spitting feathers.

 

Whataboutery. Tough decisions taken by grown ups.

im not actually a massive fan of a unilateral removal but I don’t know what else there is.

Bookmark your opinion though next time you mention benefits.

 

I don’t have a deadline for whoever they are. I want to see progress from whoever is in power to make positive changes. The comments about prepared to make ‘hard’ decisions are ok but letting prisoners out isn’t hard, in fact it’s the easy one. Much harder to decide to build prisons, change laws, and invest in solutions.

 

I've no strong feeling regarding the policy tbh - I can see the argument from both sides.

But what I can get amused by is the faux outrage from the Tory Bootlickers who've sat idly by when it came to old folk (when "Boris" wanted to "let the bodies pile high"), but now have decided that this is the biggest outrage in UK Political History.

 

But that's going to take most if not all of this parliament, if not longer. Hence why I asked how long you'd give them. Letting prisoners our marginally early seems the only immediate choice rather than an easy or difficult one.

 

Lots of comments from folk with very little understanding of what is actually happening.

Nobody with a violent crime conviction serving four years or more qualifies. Nobody with any crime linked to sexual assault, rape or domestic abuse qualifies. Anyone on a life sentence obviously not.

The 1700 or so released today and the ones earmarked for release in the rest of the month will have all served 40% or more of their sentence - and would have been automatically released at 50% regardless. In the majority of cases you are looking at a few weeks to maybe a few months tops difference. We aren’t letting all and sundry out on the streets.

This is also not new. It has been happening for years, under the previous government and the previous Labour one before it.

However, the causes of this are numerous, large scale increases in sentences for stuff like robbery under the last government - but no increases in capacity - and especially a huge increase in the number held on remand - best part of 20,000, as there’s such a massive crown court backlog. Who has underfunded the law courts, judicial system, penal system and even policing for the last decade and a half?

The best part of 20% of the ideally safe prison capacity - which we already exceed by about 10,000 - is people yet to be convicted of the crime they are accused of.

Approximately 0% of these is the doing of the government that has come in. I say approximately…