Why did they announce that there had been racist chanting from the ponty end?

I thought it was that. But couldn't see a connection except that it imo insulted Cotter.

 

It is yes.

My mum had the experience of being raised catholic and attending a catholic school.
When asked if she still believes in God she often replies with "I hope not because the one i learnt about is horrible"

To quote my favourite Catholic Priest, Father Ted.
"Say if there are 200 million priests in the world and five percent are paedophiles. That's still only 10 million."

Luckily that was a joke on a TV show. There are only 400k Priests in the world.

 

Am I allowed to be offended by this Sheffield Wednesday 'fan'? After all, I'm neither a Liverpool or West Bromwich Albion supporter.
https://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/sheff-wed-v-wba.333105/#post-3360121

 

Cotter was laughing about it, and said it was great to hear the fans singing his name.

 

Of course you are allowed to be offended by it. Being offended is a subjective personal reaction. Nothing else will happen though, you will just be offended as I'm sure many other people will be. Basically the Sky won't fall in, the world will still rotate, history won't change. Just people will feel offended.

 

Fair enough, I just dont get it maybe.

 

See now that's disgusting.

 

Ah, so people should be able to say anything they like and there should be no consequences to their actions in a Utopian society>

 

Why? Surely, he has as much right to air his views as a sectarian bigot?

 

And I have the right to find it disgusting.

 

No of course not. My point back up the post was just that the term something insulting is a little vague.
If we all go around trying not to cause offence very little will ever get done or said.

 

Correct and so do those individuals who find sectarian comments and chants disgusting, too.

 

If you are tolerant of *any* intolerant speech, then you will get to the situation where the intolerant shout down the tolerant and all you are left with is intolerance. Popper's Tolerance Paradox.

 

I find both the comments by the Sheffield Wednesday fool disgusting, as I do secatrian bigotry.

 

Agreed.

And if it's abusive and threatening then I also believe they should face consequences for their actions.
However the part I took issue with was that it was insulting. If something is just insulting then I think it's a dangerous point to start and prosecute people at

 

Not at all, that idiot got what he deserved. I'm just pointing out, what may offend one person is another persons true beliefs (I'm not referring to that specific idiot btw).

I mentioned above, why has nobody told the preachers in the town centre to move on because their chanting may offend.

If we are referring to a chant, %%%% the pope, %%%% the IRA. Not seeing much wrong with that tbh. I neither sympathise with the head of an organisation that has covered up swaithes of historic child abuse nor that of an organisation who used violence and killing as a reasonable thing to support their cause.

Nobody bats an eyelid when an opposition player comes to take a corner or throw in and his told he is a ****** or has gestures from the crowd, even through that's more personal than a random chant.

 

I find sectarian bigotry painful as it's arguing over imaginary friends.
Like so much suffering throughout human history in the name of false God's.
We find enough reasons to kill each other without the made up ones.

I stand by my point as I made it. Not by whatever anyone else interrupts it as because they don't want to try and understand it.

 

Who gets to decide what is intolerant?

 

I also stand by my points that people CAN be offended by what they believe to be offensive comments.

 

Where do we draw the line. We all have differing opinions. I don't really put f the Pope and f the ira. At the top of my list. If others are offended fine. It's a prerogative of anyone . I dislike both institutions for what they stand for on several issues. But wont go as far as to sing owt about it. But we need to be careful as a fanbase as to what is deemed acceptable or not. And the consequences to the club. That would be my beef.
But this wba issue reaches the limits of anyone's tolerance imho. And condemned by every right thinking person.