Paddy Kenny

Not a surprise as he wasn't the brightest Football player with his trips to Halifax.

 

Genuine question- is that not true though?

 

How does he propose we treat them then?

 

And how many of those hotel contracts are fleecing the government, if I was a betting man, probably 95%. In all my years in the military, as soon as a contractor saw that the military/government were looking at work done you could at least add another 30% to the bill

 

How many of the hotel chains making the most of these schemes are owned by tory donors?

Labour need to deal with this but it's no easy fix.

 

It’s a complete mess and nobody seems to have a plan….As of June 2024, the BBC reported that 50,000 people seeking asylum were living in hotels……according to https://www.refugee-action.org.uk/h...4, the,the experience is completely different.

 

*That* was the plan. Since about 2011, the Tories deliberately underfunded processing and treatment of asylum seekers - both growing the queue and increasing the cost significantly. From 2015 to 2024, the cost of the asylum system increased from £400m/year to over £4bn/year - over 10x.

As the queue got larger and more claimants were housed in hotels - largely in communities with opposition MPs - it increased anger among the public with the intention of increasing the Tory vote because they were the only party tough enough to deal with it. It also contributed to the vote for Brexit and their current push to withdraw from the ECHR.

This is a wedge issue entirely confected to manufacture Tory votes. Unfortunately, they didn't forsee the Farage factor.

 

Exactly this Scoff. Thank you for this reply as you’ve saved me a job and have articulated it far better than I could.

 

Exactly this. "Immigration is out of control" says party in control of immigration for 14 years.

 

Yes it is true because rather than spend a bit of cash (and create a good few jobs) on processing the asylum claims the government policy is to spend £Millions to leave them in limbo. They are not allowed to work so have to be fed and housed. 90% of these claims turn our to be genuine so instead those thousands of people are being effectively held prisoner and used to make people angry so they'll turn to shysters like Reform (who don't have any serious policies). These unfortunate people could be out in the community, working AND paying tax.

This current situation came about when we left the EU because before then we could simply return them to France, now we can't. Brexiteers, is this what you voted for?

 

This is what taking racists seriously gets you. It really is a grim country now, compared to pre-2011 when Cameron, Johnson, Farage, IDS and Hunt reared their Nazi heads

 

Treat people like human beings. Process their claims efficiently and properly. Deal with each case on an individual basis. Have a process in place to return people to their point of origin or best safe place if their application is denied. Dont assume all these people are horrible and don't assume all these people are nice. Just treat them and their applications with respect in the first instance. Should be straightforward and relatively emotion free. They're not 'taking our jobs' if they're processed properly. And they're not 'destroying our culture' if they're processed properly.

 

Labour will sort it....

 

How can you let someone work who has come over on a boat unchecked. We could never simply return them to France.

 

You have an efficient screening process so they can apply before they come over. And for those who need checking when they're here you invest in the system so it can process people efficiently. Then they can work.

 

But if they suspect they will be declined or they aren't actually fleeing a war won't they just come anyway? The whole process is ridiculous look at the bloke in London who had his claim rejected twice appealed then granted 3rd time and ended up doing a acid attack on a woman and child. It's ridiculous how you can appeal more than once.

 

If you read my post then you'd know that they would have been processed and their asylum claim accepted, they would then be allowed to remain in the UK and live a normal life, ie get a job and support themselves. That's what they came here for, they don't come to scrounge on benefits, they want a better life that they had in the country they came from.

When we were in the EU we could and we did return them to France (the last safe country) now we can only accept them or deport them to their country of origin.

 

Although I think I read that the illegal migration bill had been so badly written by the previous shambles that it actually prevented processing and led to the backlog. Though I also recall they were so embarrassed by the build up of the backlog to over 100k that they scheduled buses, boarded asylum seekers and literally just dropped them off in the middle of cities late at night.

You can see that the vile tory leadership candidates don't believe in human rights with actions like that.

 

Still amazed some people still think there's any difference between the red rosette or the blue..

 

If we have a way of processing them before they travel to the country, say take up France’s offer of building an assessment centre over there that the Tories routinely turned down, well then know that everyone who travels by small boat are illegal, so yes, they will be deported immediately.