Chris Kaba. The decision to prosecute the officer was a disgrace

Kinda hard to do that through a windscreen when he's trying to murder you with a 2 tonne vehicle

 

When you're to the right of the Daily Mail reader.

 

Jay is right. I've seen shots fired. It's not like slow motion like in the movies. It more than chafes if you get caught like that.
Knife crime too. It doesn't go in and out smoothly like in a drama. Inexperienced knifers generally make a mess. It's harder than it looks, messier than it looks and thankfully shocks a few into not doing it again.

Listen, with Kaba, the law as it stands is that if a cop asks you to stop, then you stop or it gets sticky. When the law changes to stopping being optional, then I'll consider joining the faux outrage.

Crime for too many youngsters is glamorise in music and screen and sadly for them,GTA is a game where you can play and get away with it. Every day of the week. Fast n Furious is a movie; the heroes are villains cos movies with folk driving at 40 and stopping at traffic lights don't gross well.

Young folk who protest in support of perpetrators, rather than in support of victims, will become the generation that lives with the consequences of such decisions.

And Corbyn can f.0ok off too.

 

I'm the biggest Snowflake on the planet.

I'm glad this went to trial & all the details were considered by judge & jury. I've no detailed information on the trial, as no one else has, other than what was reported.

Clearly the information released indicates the deceased was someone non of us would want to meet in a face to face situation. I can be sorry for the loss to his family, but I can't be sad he's not around.
To inflate this into a racial issue for me negates all the more valid cases where race could be an issue, as the Met do not have a good track record generally.

 

Bradford Turf Wars this morning (lovely kid according to all on FB who knew him) lad does GTA through the centre of Bradford, chased by 15 lads in a revenge party of vehicles. Locals scared witless, could have been carnage. Lad gets pulled out by baying mob, knifed to death in full view of folk.

You turn up as a lone copper responding to that, what is your thought process.

Another 'book of condolences ' in the local rag.

 

Right that it went to court to be decided by a jury. Right decision reached.

Tis how it works in this country.

 

Lot of assumptions in that statement and made with benefit of hindsight.
He took a shot in the dark through a windscreen at a vehicle that moving erratically. Maybe he was aiming at his forehead maybe he wasn't. Only the officer will know.
Armed police responding to a potentially armed suspect who is driving a car at them, we should not be pulling the officers over the coals on this.
Don't want to die? Comply with the armed police. Don't try to kill them. Fairly straightforward I think.

 

I'm sure it would but a shot in the shoulder would likely not render him unconscious immediately and his feet would still be on the pedals. Him having even less control would hardly be a guarantee of an improved outcome.
I don't the officer had chance to risk asses to this level in the moments when he had to make a choice.
On all levels he made the right one.

 

Apparently his nice upstanding group of friends have now had a whip-round and stuck a 10 grand bounty on the policeman’s head!

 

There are stories / opinion pieces in the guardian still talking about injustice and police brutality against black males in London based on this. There are videos of interviews with residents of Brixton who are up in arms.

I’m yet to read about any shred of evidence that his skin colour had any bearing - and if I, as a white man, had a son with a long history of violence with weapons, had shot somebody last night and drove a large Audi indiscriminately at police vehicles and officers, whilst knowing full well armed officers were present and that they might reasonably think he had a gun in the car, wouldn’t be too surprised if he ended up shot in the head.

And my first port of call for blame for his death would be his choice to be a gang leader with a notorious reputation for violence rather than blame institutional racism. He wasn’t shot because he was black. He was shot because he was a known gun wielder who had been driving a two ton vehicle at people to try and escape justice.

I’ve also seen that the judge who saw fit to name the officer (resulting in a ten grand bounty for just giving away his location being set) at the end of the trial refused the jury permission to read a letter/statement about their view of the prosecution even having taken place.

It was a needless death but the fault lies fully with Kaba himself.

 

He wasn’t shot because he was a known gun weilder ,the police didn’t know who was driving the car.

 

When I read the news stories I thought to myself officers identifies should be protected. Not saying the criminals might not be able to get this information but having his name dragged through the mud publicly for doing his job is a failing of the legal system

 

Guess what? When the armed police turn up and tell you to stand down and you choose instead to drive a car at them then consequences can be extreme.
Why this ended up in court is baffling.

 

Whilst it is highly likely that Kabba did commit the crimes in the days before the shooting that he was accused of, he was never prosecuted (due to his death) and is legally innocent of those crimes. It would have required a trial to prove his guilt.

It would not have been the first time that Met Police had shot and killed a suspect who was later found to be innocent - John Charles de Menezes.

 

The car was stationary when he was killed

 

For less than a second

 

As I understand it a judge has determined that he shot someone in both legs. It's not relevant to his death as the police didn't know it was him in the car, but saying he is completely innocent is a bit thin and it doesn't warrant the comparison to Menezes.

 

Therefor he wasnt driving a car at them when he was shot.

 

I think you are deluded mate.