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  1. portsmouth tyke

    portsmouth tyke Well-Known Member

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    I think it's awful that the government have backtracked on what they promised these women when in opposition. I fully understand their anger. I worked for 30-odd years thinking I'd retire at 65 only to find 10 years or so ago that I'd be working till I was 66.

    Sadly this is a result of our ageing population and inability to get enough young people working in the economy to provide for us old gits....
     
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    Few months ago asda wetherspoon and others said the same after budget. Still inflation has risen as a result of that budget.
     
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    What was the state of inflation under the previous government this time last year, do you know?

    I didn’t vote for the current lot, nor the last lot, but I know that the Tories absolutely knackered the country. And that Labour would have to first pick up the pieces, affect change etc before any of us could really judge them. I still think it’s far too early to be making any judgments.
     
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    Havent said the last lot did well, said when they made the budget with the rise in N.I and the base rate of pay rise it would increase inflation and could cost jobs aswell. I didn't vote for this lot or the last but it was pretty obvious the budget would rise inflation.

    https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-england-target-federal-reserve-business-live

    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk-infla...-month-in-a-row-amid-increasing-energy-costs/
     
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    I agree with the start of your sentence but they end has no bearing on anything.
     
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    No money for the pensioners yet they gave the train drivers on an average £[emoji6][emoji[emoji6][emoji6]]k a year a massive pay rise shows where priorities lie with the government looking after their union backers
     
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    NI and Minimum Wage don't increase until next April so you can't blame current increases on inflation on either of those two factors.
     
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    Given that Labour derived from unions, I'd expect nothing else. (train drivers etc)

    Much like when conservatives are in power, they give all the money to the rich and mates too
     
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    Pensioners are far from hard done by in general.

    I don't have much sympathy for the WASPI cause but it's a bad look to backtrack on things which were promised in opposition.
     
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    B*llend
     
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    So basically it isn't "women against state pension inequality" at all. It's "women against the removal of state pension inequality"

    Don't deserve a penny
     
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    And yet, like millions of other men you haven't launched a campaign for money back and used an absolutely ******** title like brush against state pension inequality. But women do it and aww poor things, they've been hard done to. They all knew just like you know that you'll be working for longer and they're lying if they say that they didn't.
     
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    Wow, they've really rattled your cage mate.
     
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    My wife was born in 1952 and only found out that her retirement age was changing a couple of years before she was due to get her pension at 60. I would say that she wasn't given sufficient notice. In fact her retirement date was moved back twice before her eventual retirement at 62. I would also say that my retirement was deferred by a year and I was only informed a few years earlier. I don't argue with men and women retiring at the same age, the old situation was an anachronism. I don't even argue against my deferment but I do think more notice should have been given. It seems to me that the government of the day simply didn't know what they were doing and todays government have made a serious mistake.
     
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    People claiming that they are campaigning AGAINST inequality when in fact they are fighting FOR inequality piss me off because it's harmful and dangerous to support discrimination but even more so to claim that you are doing the opposite.
     
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    I don't think I've ever falsely claimed to support equality. I've certainly never supported inequality and I'm pretty sure I've never said anything on here to suggest that I do.
     
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    Weird how all the media etc are suddenly turning on labour and trying to make out they are the worst government ever after just 6 months of trying to get to grips with 14yrs of Tory mismanagement.

    Think the billionaires want their puppets back in charge again.
     
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    Was it not in the pensions act 1995 that her state pension age would be rising? That's 17 years notice isn't it? there were 187 national newspaper articles about it between 1993 and 1995 when it was formerly confirmed and a further 408 times in the next 10 years taking us to 2006.

    It was specifically in articles in women's magazines.
    There was a TV ad campaign informing women about it between 2001 and 2004.

    I certainly knew about it as a child because we were told about it in school and I saw it on the TV.

    Did women really have no idea that this was happening or is it simply that they buried their head in the sand and pretended it wasn't happening because they hadn't had a personal letter telling them that they were included?
     
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    I know you haven't, I wasn't accusing you of doing that. I was talking about people wrongly using the title of women against state pension inequality when they are not against inequality at all, they are fighting for money due to the end of inequality
     

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