New allegations against Starmer

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  1. Skryptic

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    Starmer should be applauded for helping to support a self-employed business during those difficult times.
     
  2. troff

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    Various news outlets regurgitating a book excerpt from two Sunday Times ‘journalists’ - there is also no suggestion that Starmer wasn’t working at the time, nor that he was wrong to be working.

    I can guarantee he won’t have broken any laws. You might question the validity of her credentials to be a key worker - but still.

    Comparing this to Johnson’s repeated flouting of the rules, or even Matt Hancock breaking his own rules to get his end away - it’s beyond the pale and the workings of agenda’d people.

    They can haunt Starmer out if they want. I’ve no strong desire to keep him in office personally - but do they expect that to trigger an election? After the repeated changing of PM during the same parliament by the last government?

    The media might just get another PM in place - but it’s guaranteed to be someone else who they don’t want.
     
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    Pretty easy to justify it as a legitimate work meeting though, no?
     
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    and what about Kemi Badenoch hacking Harriet Harmans website? She broke the law, surely that makes her unsuitable to be the leader of a political party don't you think?
     
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    Complete none story he was working which was allowed she was working again allowed he met her at labour party HQ his place of work to have work related training which was allowed. It wasn't a ******* party or day out at a castle like Johnson Cummins and co. Nothing to see here move on.
     
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    To compare this alleged (even if true) incident to partygate and boris is laughable.
    Most will have broken some kind of rule during covid. It was sometimes practically impossible not to. Especially those like myself who had to visit many premises.
    The fact that people were stopped from seeing their loved ones dying, was inexcusable for me. Carers allowed home to return the next day. Precautions could have been enforced.

    Maybe Boris should be convicted of culpable homicide given he ignored advice at the outset. Gets my vote.

    As for offering resignation. Let's just think of those mps who resigned from those FINED over partygate. To my knowledge none. Including Boris and Sunak. (Boris's Mrs as well)
    Many junior ministers aides and private secretaries did or took the fall.

    I'm not excusing Starmer but trying to put a bit of perspective into the situation.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60124162
     
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    People still, even 4 years later, missing the point that it was the rules which were idiotic. Johnson wrote them into legislation, and Starmer wanted more of them, not less. Pair of pricks.
     
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    Unfortunately if the person at the top needs to be squeaky clean there will be no-one at the top:rolleyes:
     
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    He's one of the worst orators going. Horrendous voice. I'd be asking for my money back.

    But in all seriousness, I couldn't care less. It would class as work-related I'm sure. When it's revealed he was at a party, ballaxed, telling everyone about how his dad was a toolmaker, I'll care more.
     
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    What cobblers!
     
  11. Gimson&theBarnsleys

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    Sunac got done, but it didn't stop him being PM.
     
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    Sunak broke law and then became PM it was a game changer for him.
     
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    Beat me to it.
     
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    ;)
     
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    Why after all this time! There and then it should have been sorted if at all there was something to sort. For god's sake don't let the last lot back in, I'm not a political follower but I have never seen a government in this country run it so bad as the last lot.
     
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    Are these journalists from the same Sunday Times that is part of News International? The same News International who allegedly held a lockdown busting Christmas part that involved an editor getting "romantic" with a colleague in a glass-fronted office?
     
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    Agree.
     
  18. troff

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    His dad was a toolmaker?
     
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    If Starmer had to resign because of his dishonesty he wouldn't have spent more than an hour in Office. This is minor stuff.
     
  20. MDG

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    Starmer said Sunak should resign when it happened.

    Someone said it was a work training thing. Maybe so if you got to that extreme to hire an actor to help you perform.

    But at that stage of lockdown, the role of the actor was certainly not on the list of key workers allowed to perform their roles. So you have to really stretch your imagination to call this acceptable behaviour.
     

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