Bloody Hell, you’re towing with some here Hooky!! What’s tricky about this. The Club have finally moved into the 21 century and have allowed for a portion of the ground to become Rail seats. Not as good as standing Terraces, but a very welcome positive move. 90% of the ground is still designed for us geriatrics or those who prepare/chose to sit. If someone in Ora 1 still wants to sit they can move to any other part of the ground. If I were guessing wildly, I might suggest they will have plenty of seats to chose from next season. This is just good news and the Club should be applauded for ‘doing what they said they would do’. My only gripe is that more of the ground should have been provided for standing. Maybe it will when this is shown to be successful.
Explain "it doesn't go all.the way to the front as I understand it. As not to obstruct views from the disabled stand" That suggests to me that the most OBVIOUS place to put it isn't all the way to the front obstructing the view of the disabled stand no? Co,e on hooky, act like an adult
I shouldn't have to "believe you," it should be clear from the club where seats are available and where they aren't. You're absolutely right, anyone in that area that doesn't want to stand needs to move. @Dalestykes has nailed it with a subsequent post. I was just pointing out that when you said "tongue in cheek" that people in that area had a choice, they really don't. As for "unless you threw them out" - that should have happened many times over for breaching ground regulations on racist, sexist and indecent chanting, but we can see the club has no desire to do so. Doing it for persistent standing is pointless when set in that context.
We are talking standing. You I would imagine. realise it's a waste of time. The amount of resources you would need would be enormous. That's why nearly a every single club in the land can't control it. As I said tongue in cheek means you can if you so wish stand or sit. On safe standing. (Rail seating)
£250k for safe standing - when the EFL look to be relaxing their rules on standing? Not in my name. Upgrade the floodlights to LED - then save £1,000s in electric, and enable pre-match light shows before night games and also before the boxing. Save money, increase fan experience. Win-Win.
Are you suggesting it would be wiser to improve the match day experience for thousands rather than improve the experience for a few hundred of our worst behaved fans who constantly put the club at risk of ground closure because they refuse to stop racist and sexist chanting?
Probably realised it's pointless trying to have a debate with someone who changed the narrative within 2 posts
I think this is the crux for me. We have around 200 bellends, who love to chant abusive songs, get on the sniff, disregard stadium rules and some to the point of getting kicked out. Let's reward them.
If the real seats are anything like they were are at Wembley, which I used, then you can still see even if people in front of you are standing.
What about people whom have done none of the above, but still want safe standing. You shouldn't punish the well behaved fan, that may want safe standing, for the actions of the minority.
We are installing a few hundred. There are a few hundred people in cokehead corner already. It won't benefit many people outside of that group of racist chanters and yet will cost a LOT of the clubs fan experience budget. Money that should have been spent on improving things for everyone not just a select badly behaved few
The truthful answer is that its probably too late. We should have cracked down on the drugs, racism, abuse years ago before it became the norm for Numpty Corner. Then we could have consulted the genuine, decent people regarding safe standing. Or even put it in the other corner away from the disabled stand, because it wouldn't restrict anything at the West Stand side. Maybe I'm being negative, but I can only see problems.