Poll: What is your gender (serious answers only please)

Im still wondering if you’ve worked out what you are yet with that luscious long hair

 

I'm one of a kind Kiz. I've often been labelled a knob.

 

Are you a cis knob?

 

Pmsl yer silly git lol.

 

Why oh why

 

Most of us are bots. Badly programmed ones at that.

 

Exactly!!!

Woman or man does the job in most instances. We say cis woman or cis man/trans woman or trans man when we need to differentiate.

Just like blue does the job in most instances and we’d say light blue or navy blue when we need to differentiate.

 

Not quite my point, the blue remains blue.

 

And trans women are women.

 

Delilah? My my.

Why?

I suppose it’s what you do to me.

 

I'll be honest, such things boil my piss. People like that completely demean and devalue people who are genuinely suffering from dysmorphia or other gender-related issues. It's not a fad, it's something that causes a lot of stress and anxiety for many of those are affected by it. As a fluffy liberal myself, I also think that such idiotic and self-centred behaviour is completely detrimental to furthering progressive causes, by making us look like a bunch of proper nobs.

 

Except they aren't. You have cases of babies brought up by animals. They present like the animal but when it comes to medical treatment for eg, they need to be treated as a human, not as a wolf. Just as a male needs to be treated as a male and a female as a female.

 

To you, yes. But not all.

What you and I see as blue others may not. To someone colour blind, for example, it may be grey, green or red.

To someone visually impaired, maybe nothing at all.

Barnsley’s blind supporters only know we play in red because they’ve been told that. They may actually have no actual concept of what red is, nor colour in general.

Similarly, you, I, or anyone else may not have any understanding of the difference of gender as a concept over genetic sex. That doesn’t mean that fluidity or difference doesn’t exist, nor does it make it right to make it a black and white issue of one or the other. Male or female.

For the vast majority of people, genetic sex at birth aligns with your gender. This isn’t always the case, and it is more than reasonable in the context of a poll like this, albeit relatively bizarrely positioned on the forum of a division three football club, to use the terms cis male and cis female to refer to such people. Those who reject it, say there’s no such thing, refuse to refer to themselves as that - why? How is it inaccurate? It’s literally using a harmless Latin prefix to state your gender matches your birth sex. Rejecting it simply means you reject that others have a different experience. Nobody says you can’t refer to yourself as male or female in general parlance - why wouldn’t you?

Rejecting this and/or refusing to answer because ‘cis male/female doesn’t exist’ whether intentional or not, comes across as a bit of a bigoted view. I would argue it is more closed off thinking than bigotry, but what you give to be your definition of female is what the definition of cis female is for this poll and for conversations like it.

Saying ‘I’d just call myself female but for this I’d be classed as cis female’ or similar would be absolutely fine. It really didn’t need any more than that.

For the record, I’d refer to myself as male, for this poll cis male.

 

Cheers still no wiser

 

Wow.

Doesn’t paint you in a good light this post Helen. I doubt you’ll be bothered - but it doesn’t. I’m actually quite shocked. Maybe you aren’t just closing off your thinking as I asserted above: Maybe you are just a bigot - at least on this issue.

Would you care to explain to me how my cousin Jay, who was genetically female at birth, needs to be treated as female now? As a post surgery, trans man? What medical treatment does he need that would be uniquely ‘female’?

 

Ovarian cancer, breast cancer, cervical cancer

 

To be fair, you only putting 'transgender' instead of T male/female, its completely redundant adding Cis to the first 2 options as its clear and obviously what you meant by just listing Trans at first mate and will only cause the same debate in future

 

Unfortunately i’m not shocked in the slightest.

She’s gone a bit more mask off this time i suppose but it’s always been clear Helen is quite bigoted on this issue.

 

I’ll let him know.

I mean he has no ovaries, breasts or cervix - but I’m sure this will provide some reassurance.

 

If a cis woman has had her ovaries removed she’s no longer at risk for ovarian cancer, does that make her less of a woman?

Men can also get breast cancer. It’s rare because it’s all based on the amount of breast tissue and men have less, but possible. Also same question, if a cis woman has her breasts cut off, does that make her not a woman?

No of course not. But they’ll not be treated for the risks of those cancers because everyone’s different and medical history plays into medical care.

You mentioned earlier about “experiences” you’ve had that made you feel like a woman. I assume this is things like pregnancy. Does that make women that haven’t gone through pregnancy not women?