Reform has each of the two main parties running scared and I'm not surprised, a little saddened that the Labour Party are now so scared that Reform have practically written these changes for them. The Labour Party ceased to be a force fir the working class during Blair's tenure and this leader, Starmer, is a liar and a coward and Reform will grind the Tories and Labour into oblivion.
Tories are becoming labour after Blair. Irrelevant Labour are becoming the new Tories. Absolutely hated. That's gave reform a massive opportunity to fill the holes what the majority of public are crying for. I personally can't stand any of the parties now. If or when reform takes control, I cant see farage running the country... What is his stance on workers rights? What is his stance on taking on inflation? What is his stance on crime solving, making our streets safer? Lots more to be add...
It doesn't matter, all the thickos voting for him care about is getting rid of immigrants, anything else will be an afterthought after the shitshow happens. Brexit and getting our cuntry back allover again. All of it is a sad indictment of our education system.
Just a reminder, it's his speech this morning and its clear similarities to that infamous Powell speech which irked me. It can't have been coincidence. They have a team of people who run through such public statements, proofing them, ensuring they're spot on. Despicable language.
Before the last election I was really struggling to pick someone to vote for so went green. Having said that, labour seem determined to clamp down on wasting money which is great, they’re just not very good at it.
We were burdened with the Brexit referendum because Cameron was scared of UKIP. I wonder what Starmer's legacy of doing similar with Reform will be.
That's where we are at the current shower got in, lies and broken promises. Prisons are overcrowded, justice system a joke, housing shortage, young people struggling to get on the ladder, starmer hasn't got to grips with the boats or people traffickers like he said, working people and small businesses owners getting taxed massively. The working people are fed up and starmers managed to piss everyone off.
The recent local elections confirmed what many had warned: Reform UK is no longer just a fringe protest party — it’s becoming a serious political force. Nigel Farage predicted as much after the last general election, and it turns out he was right. Reform is not merely pulling in disaffected Conservative voters. It’s also gaining traction among traditional Labour supporters. That alone should be ringing alarm bells across Westminster. But there’s an uncomfortable truth that too many politicians are still refusing to confront. A significant portion of the British public’s concern around immigration is not just about numbers or resources — it’s about culture. Specifically, a large part of the anxiety is focused on Islamic immigration. Let’s be absolutely clear: the overwhelming majority of Muslims in the UK are peaceful, decent people trying to navigate life like the rest of us. But that cannot mean we turn a blind eye to some deeply troubling realities. Muslims make up around 6% of the UK population. Yet MI5 reportedly spends 75% of its counter-terrorism efforts on threats linked to Islamist extremism. More than 90% of the 43,000 individuals on the terror watch list are suspected of Islamist affiliations. These figures are not opinions — they are facts. Ignoring them does no one any favours. The far right in Britain has a long and ugly history of racism and violence. It must be confronted wherever it appears, and prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But the extreme left has done us no favours either. By shutting down any open discussion of Islamist extremism — labelling those who raise legitimate concerns as racists or bigots — they’ve handed the narrative to Reform and others like them. Those parties then step in with a toxic mix of truth, distortion and oversimplification — and here we are. I don’t pretend to have an easy answer to the problem of Islamic extremism. But I know this: ignoring it isn’t a solution. Nor is voting for Reform. Those are simply two sides of an extreme and reactive coin. Labour, in particular, would do well to remember that many of its own voters supported Brexit — motivated, in part, by precisely these issues. Pretending otherwise only deepens the divide. The political landscape in the UK is, frankly, a mess. But for all our faults, at least we haven’t got Trump.
Starmer and the party he's created is definitely not for me. They've obviously decided that going after the Reform vote is their best shot - I disagree, but fair play to them. But he's just not my guy, and I think I've finally come to the conclusion that Labour maybe aren't my party any more. I'm sure they'll be delighted to hear that! It's certainly going to be an interesting few years to be watching from the outside.
I’m not sure it’s quite right to say Starmer and Labour are going after the Reform vote — it seems more like they’re trying to hold on to voters they’re at risk of losing to Reform. There’s a subtle but important difference. It’s a fine balance: if Labour leans too far into appeasing Reform-leaning voters, they risk alienating their core support and compromising their principles. But if they ignore those concerns altogether, they hand those voters to Reform on a plate — and potentially spend another five years in opposition, watching the country slide further into polarisation. It’s not a clean or comfortable strategy, but I suspect it's more about electoral survival than genuine ideological alignment.
I’ve just listened to his latest announcement and it seems perfectly reasonable to me though he makes me want to catch 40 winks.
Evidence suggests that Labour haemorraging votes to its left is more of a problem for them than the votes it is losing to Reform. https://labourlist.org/2025/01/yougov-labour-greens-liberal-democrats-reform-nigel-farage/
They mention good ideas like making it so you didn't pay tax until you earned 20k. But they don't answer how their ideas will be paid for.
They are carefully toning down the public iteration of their policies now they sniff power. It seems to me that we are being slowly sucked into a vortex where Reform emerge in control. It's unthinkable - just like brexit, or a Trump presidency. And we look doomed to wish it upon ourselves before people realise the simple answers of Farage and his gang of conmen don't work
Exactly — I think that actually supports my point. Labour seems more concerned about the voters they could lose to Reform than the ones they’ve already lost elsewhere. It’s not so much about chasing Reform’s current base, but trying to prevent more defections — especially in key constituencies where every marginal vote matters.
It’s easy to promise anything when you’re not in power,not so easy to follow through with them as Starmer is finding out
