Donald Farage

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  1. gra

    grandfathertyke Well-Known Member

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    My grandad was a soldier. A volunteer regular in WW One. My Uncle was RN, Atlantic destroyers WW 2. My Aunt was a gunlayer in the RA in the London Blitz. They were all big Labour supporters. Real Labour. Manny Shinwell and John Smith Labour. They would have sniffed Farage out pdq. Not all Forces are right wing.
     
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    pompey_red Well-Known Member

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    I’m ex forces, neither do I. I’m also capable of understanding that’s not what the post said.
     
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    I agree. As ex forces, the poster intended to label you as more likely to be a right wing extremist than a potential killer.

    I wonder if he stereotypes other persons as more likely to do this or that, just based on a little snippet of information about them.
     
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    Load Bearing Pillar Well-Known Member

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    No, I didn't because Pompey red has posted similar about the forces in the past.
     
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    Gegenpresser Well-Known Member

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    You pre-judge people from the armed forces.

    In your mind it is to be "expected" that they have certain detrimental political views.

    So if you met an ex-squaddie, you'd expect him to have unhealthy right wing tendencies.

    That is prejudice, pure and simple.
     
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    Without being an @rse, I can certainly say from personal experience that a number of forces personnel have very right wing views. Didn’t we have a poster on here recently that worked at RAF Waddington having far right views? When I was involved in officer trg we had a member of staff who had a copy of Mein Kampf on his desk and also followed the BNP on social media. He also told the officer cadets that when they were going through the respirator check drills in the chamber, that this is how the Germans sorted out the Jews, so yes they do walk amongst the military, and to suggest otherwise is wrong
     
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    I would hazard a guess it would be more likely that they voted to the right than left in the last election, it's a bit extreme to call that prejudice given that it is well known that the armed forces tend to be more right wing. There are even two ex-forces people in this thread who back this view. Would it also be prejudice to suggest that if I met a student that they would be more likely to vote left wing? No, of course it wouldn't.

    Look, I'm not going to reply to you again within this thread because I shouldn't really have to defend myself. Have a lovely weekend.
     
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    my personal experience, I’d say about 95% right wing with quite a large proportion on the edge of far right, quite happy to discuss
     
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    No-one is getting an abortion at 24 weeks because they’ve changed their mind about keeping their baby. Ones performed at that time are for health reasons of the mother or baby and are always extremely upsetting for those who have to have one that late in their pregnancy and lose their very much wanted baby through no choice or fault of their own. They are performed that late because the problems are only detected at the previous scan and understandably, tests are repeated before abortion is decided. These can take up to 3 weeks, pushing the abortion time back. Even still, only 1% of all abortions in the UK are after 20 weeks. Zero babies survive if born before 21 weeks and of those born between 22 and 24, almost all are still born. 100% of those who do survive who were born between 22 and 24 weeks have a serious disability.
     
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    Fair enough if it's through health reasons.
     
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    Frankly i think until it is able to survive outside of the womb on its own it should be considered part of the woman’s body any any decisions should be made between the woman and her doctor. If the baby is able to survive on its own it should be able to be delivered. Any restrictions from government only serve to reduce the autonomy of women and impose unnecessary risks and will absolutely take lives.

    This is always framed by these right wing extremists as reasonable policy or just lowering the number of weeks, but we’ve seen in many states in the US you’ve got instances of women dying because doctors are unwilling to perform life saving care because it would technically be classed as an abortion. You’ve got women getting prosecuted for having a miscarriage, young girls who after being raped are forced to do irreversible damage to their bodies.

    It’s nothing to do with trying to “save lives” it’s purely about controlling women and trying to push the world back to a time where women were unable to have control over their own bodies and lives.
     
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    The problem is, if there’s legal restrictions on it like what Farage wants to implement it adds hurdles and red tape that will limit what doctors can do in emergency situations.
     
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    Using Jeremy Corbyn cut outs for shooting practice when he was the Labour leader was another clue!!
     
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    I wouldn’t worry about it. On election night, a decent number of posters on here had the area of Barnsley I live in as scum reform vermin based on incorrect exit polls. The fact that most right minded people think farage should live in a boarded up cave never came into it.
     
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    Indeed. I fondly remember having a good go at the baying mob who had hung drawn and quartered the Barnsley populace before an electoral declaration had been made.
     
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    Yeah I was one of them. I fully deserved to take my medicine and happy to have been wrong.
     
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    To be fair, the reform guy said all black people were lazy & act like savages & still got 10,000+ votes, that needed calling out for sure!
     
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    Ditto.

    I was never more happy to be proven wrong. Thay exit poll did **** me up though
     
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