Can you understand by continuing to put out communication through various media about this summer it's given fans hope? We had a head coach in place before the season ended who was going to be here for this, first time in years, we had a small early window, we had the sporting director saying competitive budget and things like massive few weeks to make early progress. Yet here we are not a peep and yet people still insist on defending poor performance especially after the last debacle of a transfer window, I think people just accept stuff out of habit or blind loyalty sometimes. P.s I'm not calling you out specifically but we're in a right mess considering the turnaround needed to play how they've stated, comes a point mate surely even the most loyal fan starts to question what the actual plan is, just appears devoid of leadership and direction.
I certainly think an update from Mladen,Conor or Nareev would be quite welcome and possably calm a few nerves.Thing is though if we signed for example 4 players next week some would complain that we didn't sign them last week.Personally I keep my powder dry until I see who we actually sign because as sure as eggs are eggs not every signing will be met with100% approval.
Yep and that’s why I put in another post about them not learning the art of communication and its impact. Your example of early progress is a great example actually, he never said getting people in early, progress is measured in many forms and he could have meant constructive talks meaning earlier than normal signings, which as we all know in the past means last minute stuff. BUT by saying what he did left it open to interpretation. In terms of leadership etc, I’ve said all along the Chairman should be being held to account, his decisions who is appointed, his decision who he listens to and as YT explained it’s the board who make the big calls. If it is an employee that is the issue then the leader should be acting to rectify that either by training/mentoring or replacing.
I understand that, it's also impossible to quantify how good/bad a signing is until a dozen games unless you are paying big fees for oven ready players. Point is though Bri we've put a marker down in the sand saying let's make significant early progress and yet we haven't, loyal fans are now moving the goalposts to be more accommodating towards them, but the communication was let's make "significant" early progress. Similar story last summer, it was clear to see Darrell Clarke was becoming more frustrated and we'd missed our targets, January was an absolute clusterfu*k of the highest order. In this latest fans forum its roughly about 80% of fans that have stated they don't trust the owners, in 3 months time they'll probably be asking for feedback as to why? Is it any wonder mate
To me ....."to make significant early progress towards signings" means attacking the free market ahead of the competition" Obviously that's my own opinion but based on our finances you'd think that would be the plan and we'd be talking to agents from January onwards about out of contract players. So far doesn't look like we've mastered the art.
Thats why I say an update would be most welcome.I don't agree with the mis trust in the owner.I think he was left with a lot of financial obsticles to over come and that will take time. I genuinly believe everybody at Oakwell will do their upmost to make this season a successfull one. One thing I didn't realize is that this is only the 3rd window of the current recruitment team. Hopefully this time next week things have settled down a bit and the team is starting to build.
All due respect fans want action, bodies in the building, naturally there will be some communication next week from Conor but he'll unfortunately be at the wrong end of stick from supporters whilst the sporting Director will be nowhere to be seen in his support. Just don't think and update on "well it's a tough market were working hard on deals" will cut the mustard, probably better sating nothing it will turn into a stoning
And maybe we have done exactly that but for some reason it has not transpired into announcing signings yet. Many reasons why that could be, Luca said on here last week there could be 3 this week, that suggests we have been talking (if true). Like I said on other post I’ll judge at start of season not whilst a cake is half baked.
To quote Conor "we're all on the same page". I totally agree with you its frustrating but because we haven't seen new players in the shirt it doesn't mean that deals haven't been done. Some fans get frustrated when other clubs make signings before us but its more than likely that none of the signings made so far were on our radar anyway.I'm a bit long in the tooth now to to demand him ,him, and him,I've enough patience to wait and see then give my opinion.
Genuine question - people refer to recruitment team to blame, aside of Sormaz & Coach is it the same recruitment team in place for some time or are some/many of these new too? I know it’s being said about James not involved but I’m guessing he wasn’t actually doing the hard yard working through the data etc.
6 weeks to start of season. Some players left. Humphreys gone. Dkd might go. No players signed yet. Pre season is nearly upon us. Wtf is going on. Is sormaz on holiday
I know there are 2 young lads mid 20's but they've been there before Mladen, our interpretation of data changed when Mladen was appointed. Sorry to jump in Brian
Course he says we're on the same page, it's corporate speak. He's hardly likely to say Mladen's a lovely person is he?
So in layman's terms you are saying that we've already signed players but haven't announced them? Baffling
No i didn't say that.Theres a multitude of reasons why deals aren't announced at any one given moment. I knew an old bloke years ago massive Barnsley fan,home and away until the good lord took him home. I could tell him that we'd signed a player I could give him the name and which club we'd signed him from but he always said I'll believe it when I see him with shirt on.So things like location ,holidays weddings etc all can come into play before its made official. Stephen Humphreys was announced last night at 10,oclock but more than likely he signed a couple of weeks ago and they only announced it when he was home from holidays so he could be pictured with the shirt on. Nothing black and white in transfer dealings.
I don't specifically but just heard we now look at different development parameters from the previous process, it's design where we think we can coach different development areas quicker, so in a nutshell previously we look at xyz player who may already hold some of the skill sets and be developed through game time, now we look at certain players we think can be developed using a coaching methodology to better those skills sets. Gent is a prime example technically a decent player but lacks defensive awareness, the method believes you can coach awareness faster than technique to form a complete player.
As pointed out earlier in this thread, whatever they say will be twisted and misinterpreted by some to fit the narrative they wish to maintain.