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  1. Gally

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    I dont think they had the budget to create an indoor or semi covered area. They will have heaters im told and limited cover with the jumbrellas as well and some shelter from the wind via the shipping containers/fencing. The main problem for me is its too small if 650 is the true maximum number of fans who can go in. We got way more than that in the fan zone in its busiest days. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, it works for other clubs. The club did its research and looked at the facilities at other clubs in this respect. Providing they dont price out fans with it will be popular imho. This is assuming the club dont lose interest as they appeared to do with the previous one.
     
    Gally, Jun 25, 2025 at 8:40 AM
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    They are sealing the wind gaps but they cant put seats etc in. It has been looked at. Cant remember the exact details but fire / health and safety or some such thing.
    It will also get used much more than two or three times.
     
    Gally, Jun 25, 2025 at 8:45 AM
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    I have no doubt indoor works too.
    Ultimately all I’m saying is it could work.
    I’m happy to give it a go first, others are happy to just condemn it first that’s their prerogative.
     
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    Other than your 2 posts Paul, where has the feedback been to questions raised when they asked for some engagement on the project.
    Seen absolutely nothing come back to answer/alleviate fans concerns.
     
    RedfearnsRocket, Jun 25, 2025 at 8:54 AM
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    Don't you sit at the game in the cold ? What's the difference?
     
    Redblueunwhite, Jun 25, 2025 at 9:01 AM
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    Those slides need number of respondents shown, but the story they tell is pretty damning
     
    Andrew Tennant, Jun 25, 2025 at 9:11 AM
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    They are, whilst I would suspect majority of the negativity will be linked to the playing/enjoyment of the football it does highlight the need for the club to engage in someway in a more meaningful and clear way.
     
    lk311, Jun 25, 2025 at 9:15 AM
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    Think it was around the 1600 mark
     
    RedfearnsRocket, Jun 25, 2025 at 9:38 AM
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    Lincoln have a big indoor area with 2 bars right next to their fan zone where you can go in and watch the afternoon kick off
     
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    Because it won't entice others to get to the ground earlier to spend money, thought that was the idea.
    Some will go and it will be a good fit for them, others won't bother, can't see where the uplift will come from especially if it holds less than before.
     
    RedfearnsRocket, Jun 25, 2025 at 9:42 AM
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    Financially operating the fanzine will at best be a break even. This is the club trying to provide fans with an improved matchday experience from limited spend.

    With a capacity of 650, assuming the facility is full for every game and everyone spends £25 (wild assumptions) total turn over would be £375k. Typical margin for pubs is around 20% so a profit of £75k over the season which will not meet year one set up costs.

    Putting that in the context of the club’s projected losses £75k would meet nearly 3 days of losses.

    Give it a go it might be good…
     
    Archerfield, Jun 25, 2025 at 9:58 AM
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    Fans who complain the club have no money to spend on players then say they won't spend money while at the ground.

    The mind boggles..
     
    JakeWarrior, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:20 AM
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    Maybe fair pricing in the ground would help?
     
    RedfearnsRocket, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:37 AM
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    If I was designing a fan zone I think I'd want it to have:
    1) Inside and outside spaces that it was suitable for all weathers and matchdays throughout the season
    2) A permanent structure so as to avoid feeling disappointingly amateur
    3) A space to buy a decent range of drinks, matching customer preferences, and at typical pub prices rather than excessive price gouging to actually get some use
    4) Some local food vendor options, probably provided by street food/events vendors who pay a pitch fee for the opportunity and set their own menus and pricing
    5) A PA system, screens and a stage area - this allowing showing video content, live music, family friendly entertainment, and interactions with players/the club media department
    6) Not too rowdy - suitable for everyone coming to games rather than just those who want to get hammered
    7) The ability to open outside of matchdays if there is sufficient demand

    Not sure the extent to which the proposed plans actually deliver on these, particularly 1) and 2).
     
    Andrew Tennant, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:38 AM
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    Friend of mine used to own a pub, he wanted a new beer garden, decking area, the full works.
    First port of call was the big breweries, in the end he got 12.5k from Heineken for putting 3 of their products on draught on an agreement for 3 years.
    Simples.
     
    RedfearnsRocket, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:43 AM
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    For some no matter what the club do they can't get it right.
     
    Redblueunwhite, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:49 AM
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    Given the issues the catering have serving the current relatively limited number of customers I can understand why they're not lowering prices to try and drive increased demand.

    Obviously from a customer perspective, having products people want, that they can have, in an efficient way, and for a reasonable price - this is much better, and generally also more profitable.
     
    Andrew Tennant, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:50 AM
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    That will be about 88% on the fan engagement survey.
     
    RedfearnsRocket, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:52 AM
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    Price point is a key factor in any customer decsion making, if pricing for next season remains high then there's no hook to entice people to make a change.
    In simple terms why would a fan leave a warm pub, dry pub with a good offering at reasonable cost to a lesser environment for potentially more cost.
     
    RedfearnsRocket, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:57 AM
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