Tory Boy Starmer wins through on the back of the disabled

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    Fair points, I hope you're right. Of course they could bring in some form of proportional representation. That wouldn't be easy, since it wasn't in the manifesto and could, therefore, be blocked by the Lords which is of course packed with Tories. The Parliament Act which is designed to stop The Lords blocking a government's program, could be used but it would be a dangerous precedent for a policy not in the government's election manifesto. If the next election results in a Labour/LibDem coalition, I would expect PR to be a red line for the LibDems - not just a referendum as they were shafted by last time.
     
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    How do you know that?
     
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    I'm not so sure about that. Its possible that Kendall was pushed out in front as the instigator and she'll get removed as a sop. Labour did the same to Barbara Castle c.1969 when 'In place of strife' was brought forward. You might be right of course...
     
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    Have you considered that maybe people do listen to you, but they simply don't agree with you? It's okay to have different views, the last time I checked. And until there's another general election, Labour haven't lost any votes to anyone. That will come in 2029, and there will be much water to flow under the bridge before then. McDonnell is a man with an axe to grind and who's views proved too outre, even for Ken Livingstone.
     
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    I always consider views. I consider your views on horse racing for example because I recognise the logic you apply to it. I do not recognise the implication I am wrong when there is no justification to suggest I am wrong. Yes, my comments are opinions as are yours but I always try to base my opinions (left wing as they are) on facts and understanding of issues. So, for example, I will criticise Starmer as a liar (as I have done on numerous occasions) and will provide examples if why he is. Some people don't like to admit Starmer is a liar simply because he is Labour but they did criticise Johnson for being a liar.Double standards. I will criticise Labour or any government on any policy which can be criticised for incompetence (welfare bill), cruelty (welfare bill and many previous Tory policies) or ill-judged ( Iraq war amongst others). Yes, I am left wing but I stick to my principles on that and don't fall in with any government if they lack principle, ignore international law, don't think about the most vulnerable in society and have no real idea how to make society better. If that means Im bloody-minded and think I'm right all the time then yes, I'm right all the time.
     
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    Not very. Absolutely clueless, she's in way over her head.
     
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    Sir Keir has been superb today, on many levels.
     
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    Go on, I’ll humour you.
     
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    In other news, Zara Sultana MP has resigned from Labour and announced she’ll co-lead a brand new left-wing party alongside Jeremy Corbyn with other indie MPs joining.
     
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    Further update.

    Corbyn has apparently not yet agreed to join this new party.

    Great start. :D

    Vote Green.
     
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    Excellent news for Labour. She was an absolute liability to Labour, even after she'd had the whip suspended.

    Most recently heard chanting "we're all Palestine Action" in the Commons, subsequent to them being proscribed as a terrorist group. She and Corbyn deserve each other.
     
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    Credit to her standing by her beliefs.

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    What is your opinion of the Suffragette movement?
     
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    They were an interesting part of my GCSE History course between 1990 and 1992.
     
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    How did you get on? I smashed history and English about six years after you. Maths, not so much. Good job I’ve no money really.
     
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    Straight A's at GCSE, then 5 A's at A-Level (Maths, Further Maths, Physics, Chemistry and General Studies). I suspect my A-Level choices were likely your worst nightmare, although I only did Chemistry because the school couldn't accommodate my original choice of French.

    Ironically, my eldest daughter has chosen the same 4 main subjects for her A-levels, without me applying any influence towards her decision. We've got a few weeks to wait for her GCSE results first, but she seems quite relaxed about how they went, which as much as we can ask at this stage.

    With hindsight, History GCSE is probably one of the subjects that still has huge relevance today, in the sense that it was primarily focused on questioning sources of information and assessing the likelihood that they were biased in terms of what they were telling you about a particular topic. I did the Modern History option, so we covered from the first World War through to the end of the Vietnam war (it says a lot that the timescale framing starts and ends with a war). A typical exam question might show a wartime propaganda poster and ask questions about it (e.g. who produced it, what's the aim of the message, etc). Navigating the UK press and social media feeds, these days, requires exactly the same kind of critical assessment to filter out the huge levels of noise within it.
     
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    I think she was appalled that many of her colleagues have supported a genocide & that many of them take money from the Government committing said genocide.

    Hopefully she can keep exposing these bent politicians now she’s out of the cesspit.
     

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