This one in one out deal…

What would your Nige do?

 

the problem is solved by putting a ferry on. solved in an instant, process fairly, quickly and humanly once in Dover/the UK. Immigration centres used to exist, I’m not sure when the policy changed to short term hotel living, this just gives the right wing fuel, literally in the case of manvers to complain… I’m sure they equate a hotel to sone sort of luxury spa break!

 

That was a song by Bonzo Dog Doo Da Band.
Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band - Death Cab For Cutie (DNAYS)

 

I dont think 'lefties' love the boat crossings mate. I'm a lefty and I think the saga is quite sad and tragic really. Whatever one thinks of immigration numbers there are people in those flimsy dinghys (They're not boats are they?) and they all need to be treated like human beings. They're not getting into dinghys in France cos they think its a lark. Whatever one thinks of Starmer - and I detest the guy - he's got a job on with these crossings just like Sunak, Truss, Johnson, May and Cameron before him. Its difficult to resolve and it gets spun for political capital by all sides.

 

I don’t think he’d do anything, because once he’s in a position to do something about it he’ll no longer need to. His ‘stance’ on immigration is purely to get the support of people who otherwise would have nothing to do with him. He can get the support of the wealthier types, because they know he’ll be slashing the welfare state, which they don’t need, the NHS, which they don’t use, and taxes, which they very much would like slashing. That’s not gonna help the masses in places like Barnsley though. In fact, quite the opposite, as losing the NHS, much of the welfare state, employee rights once we leave the ECHR, etc, will be a very bad thing for the folk of places like Barnsley, so if they looked into what he is actually going to do there is absolutely no way they’d support him. So he had to come up with a plan of how to get their support and there it was in black and white. Mainly black.

Immigration is a smoke screen. Hopefully enough people will look beneath this mask and realise what they’d be voting for, and not make the mistake they made the last time he made loads of promises. For example, people actually voted with a man who fully intends to scrap the NHS because he promised an extra £350m per week to the NHS. Hopefully they’re not going to make the same mistake twice.

The best way to stop the small boats is quite easy anyway. You just need one thing, a TARDIS. Take it back to early 2016 and this time listen to ‘Project Fear’ rather than Project ********.

 

Here we go.

Right, let’s address one or two things.

Nobody ‘loves’ small boat crossings. As a socialist lefty, which you seem to think is an insult, I would love for them to not exist at all. And in place of them a proper processing system for asylum seekers and other migrants wishing to gain entry.

Cost of £10billion a year? Including support, settlement and accommodation, borders and enforcement, services (visas, passports etc), and other sundries, the last declared year the total expenditure was £9.3billion. However over £5billion was received, mainly from visa and passport issuing costs, meaning the net cost was £4.3billion. Which is less than half of one per cent of government spending.

Corporate tax evasion cost nearly £6billion in the same period; non-doms (which are now being made illegal) avoided £4billion in tax in the same period.

Loopholes and ‘legal’ tax avoidance by the wealthiest is estimated to reduce the income of HMRC by £17billion every year. For examples inheritance tax loopholes, generally exploited by wealthy families, costs £1.7 billion in lost tax every year.

So, yeah. TaX tHE rICh.

Because those greedy s.hits are affecting the country multiple times more than any level of migration ever could.

But it’s too popular amongst the hard of thinking to blame foreigners - and too dangerous for the vast majority of the written and broadcasting media to suggest something that would upset their paymasters.

I’ll point out that Brexit was allowed a vote by idiotic right wing politicians - and voted for by even further right wing people - and that before Brexit, the number of migrants arriving by small boat was completely negligible. Practically none. It’s a problem that simply didn’t exist prior.

Out of the EU we don’t have access to the fingerprint database to check for asylum being granted in other countries. The policies adopted by the Tory government since then removed all proper legal and vetted routes into the country.

Do you support that? Do you want nobody at all to be allowed into the country? Do you realise the economic disaster that would cause?

You probably don’t care - you were told Brexit would be an economic disaster in advance, it has proven to be since, and you still think it was a good idea.

Maybe because we ‘took back control’? That worked out well.

 

Agree on most.

Some of those figures though are unrealistic. Like when the Tories put stamp duty up and said they'd make more money from it. In reality there were less transactions made and stamp duty revenue decreased. You can only tax so much before the law of diminishing returns kicks in.

Higher taxation is a short term fix, what is needed is economic growth to uplift some of the 18million currently living below the poverty line and getting more people to contribute rather than be a burden on the state.

For that however, we need much bolder policies and a complete reset of the way the countries ran. We need to move towards political models that work across Northern Europe and we need our politicians to admit that the country is broken and that there will need to be short-term pain in order to deliver long-tefm gain. None of this is remotely likely to happen.