Palestine Action

I’d love to say me, considering I believed they were now the Tories with a red tie. But no, not even I thought they’d shift so far to the right.

 

Yep. Problem is this government has set a precident in investigating people or locking people up for 'hate' comments that could have been dealt with differently. Not just the racist **** but even parents of school kids who raise topics that arent even political, racist or hateful. Now where does it stop? Carrying a flag, promoting a religion, taking a side? At the same time you never see a police officer if you have had a break in, something stolen or shoplifting. This is part of why civil unrest is growing.

 

UK government are signatories to various international laws. Those laws should be upheld. If you don't feel that's important then that's up to you and your conscience.

 

To be fair Blunkett was pretty right wing as a home secretary.

 

Whilst Palestine Action "only" threw paint on a couple of planes, it is still "vandalism with intent to influence government policy" - and under the Terrorism Act, it meets the definition of terrorism.

At the same time, every single protest outside an asylum hotel is "threat of violence with intent to influence government policy" - which also under the Terrorism Act, also meets the definition of terrorism. And we had a UKIP politician doing a Seig Heil at Portsmouth over the weekend (apparently 300m from the War Memorial there).

I did see though, that one guy was arrested for a T-shirt that said "Plasticine Action" with a picture of Morph on it.

 

Yes, he was very hard line in terms of immigration and law enforcement. More so than most in government at the time. I think Labour was unraveling by then. The war on terror and all the damage it did etc.

Wasn’t he sacked, or did he resign over something to do with a lover? It’s 20 odd years ago and I was a student at the time and busy protesting the Iraq/Afghan invasion, like the lefty looney that I still am.

I met him a couple of times in my previous job. He was a boardroom guest when we played Sheffield Wednesday. Didn’t really speak to him beyond exchanging pleasantries. His dog was lovely.

 

And a woman attending the Everton game at the weekend with her two kids was told she wasn’t allowed in because she was wearing the shirt of the Palestine national team. She had to zip her jacket up to get in.

Only last week, the IOF murdered Palestine’s most talented player…

 

The far right groups have gotten very good at not being directly accountable for these protest events. They arrange them behind the scenes but market them. As "just normal people who share the same views". No specific group claiming responsibility means no chance if being classified as terrorist. Even when they are banned they just close the group and start a new one. Loophole central

 

For me, in order for a campaign group to be proclaimed a terrorist group there has to be violence or the threat of violence. As I understand it, this group isn't Yes, they broke into a base and spray painted a plane, but as far as I'm aware there was no violence or threats.
The great thing about Britain is that we are a democracy and that includes the right to peacefully protest, which by the sound of it was all that those arrested were doing.

 

That's correct, and it's a massive failure in our intelligence services who still seem rooted in some kind of McCarthyist, anti-commie witch hunt that only looks one way.

As you allude to, there's no specific far right group who the authorities can sanction outright, as they're more disorganised and nebulous than the left, plus they protest across a variety of different "issues" rather than the singular, Palestine Action.

Having said that, I'm still not sure what breaking into RAF Brize Norton and chucking paint over a military aeroplane actually achieved. All it did was get Starmer's back up. As the Jewish Chronicle has reported extensively, Starmer's wife is Jewish, they're members of a North London Synagogue and they participate in Jewish traditions every week. I'll leave that there.

I'm another lefty who hates this Labour government. Every one of them is utterly hateful.

 

They look like this guy:

https://barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/yaxley-lennon.338170/

 

Seems like everyone needs to protest about something these days , I miss the days before we was drip fed every problem in the world 24/7,it was a much more stress free existence

 

You're right of course but didn't just stop oil damage a petrol station to try to influence government policy on granting new fossil fuel licences? Extinction rebellion smashed windows and sprayed paint on the shell headquarters amongst other buildings in an attempt to influence government policy. Insulate Britain poured paint all over the m25 in an attempt to influence government policy. There are many examples of protest groups committing vandalism while trying to influence government policy and none are proscribed yet dare to support Palestine and it's an instant ban and arrest.

When the government is using an agenda to ban groups and arrest people rather than actual facts then the law that the government has created holds no weight. The entire population should stand up against this genocide and turn on the murderer kier starmer and his mates

 

Life is always much more stress free when you are selfish and only give a crap about yourself.

 

The problem with the people burning asylum seekers' accommodation is that there was no single organisation responsible for it so impossible to proscribe. Terrorists - yes but on whose behalf?

 

What I notice about these opposing groups is that they will defend their own right to protest but object in the strongest possible terms those who oppose their views from doing the same, and they will invoke special pleading to somehow justify it. The other sides marches are always either labelled racist or supporting terrorism, end of debate.

 

You’re so right they’re literally the same. Wow it’s like a spot the difference.

(i know you’re not saying they’re the same, i’m being facetious)