Zack Polanski

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  1. RamTam

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    Probably because of their ever increasing pandering to the right.

    The entire spectrum has been moved so far right by all the scaremongering, that a relatively centrist position ten years ago is viewed as far left by half the country these days.
     
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    Where are you getting that figure from?
     
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    Sestren Well-Known Member

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    I thought it was one I hadn't seen (Largely because it was positive!).

    That's government approval, and everybody hates this government at the moment. If you want to make a point about what people think about left and right then you probably want to look at all the parties - something like this, from the same source: https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/52795-political-favourability-ratings-august-2025

    Labour are at -37. Whether or not you count them as a left-wing party (and I don't), that needs to be put against the others. Tories at -39, Reform at -24, Lib Dems at -4 and the Greens at +5. That looks broadly leftish to me.
     
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    these people
     
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    Gordon Bennett. This man has no understanding of a vulnerable woman's needs at all.
     
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    That sounds like a really scientific and researched thesis. Loads of concrete evidence for that then.
    p.s. I'm very bitter and dysfunctional and my life isn't up to much. Just saying
     
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    No, it's advocated by people with a social conscience and an understanding of the diminishing marginal utility of capital.
     
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    Andrew Tennant Well-Known Member

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    Knowing your mistakes is the first step to progress
     
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    ballacks to it, what's the point
     
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    How many people feel these days
     
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    There is no "extreme left". There is however an extreme right and as I've pointed out it's on the rise all over the world because people's living standards, including traditional middle class families, are being heavily eroded.

    The simple fact is, backed up by well established numbers, that large corporations and extremely wealthy individuals are raking in ever increasing amounts of money causing massive disparity.

    One thing they are doing is buying up housing stock, because what else do you do with that spare cash when you've got everything else you need?

    That's eroding traditional middle class ability to buy housing, just as it's left working class people no chance of doing so and left them paying incredibly high rents also due in part to wealthy people and organisations using those houses as rental income.

    If you're in the middle to high earner bracket, don't think you or your kids and grandkids will be exempt from this problem, because it's grossly naive to do so.

    So when there's talk or taxing more, it's not talking about high 5 or 6 digit earners here, not even 7 digits, but people with tens of millions up to hundreds of billions.

    If countries don't work together to tax these people and organisations, then things will continue to get worse. This will effect everyone, you included.
     
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    You seem good for it, despite your protests.

    As I say for a third time, you're either greedy and selfish, or you're not.
     
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    This is a very over simplified black and white attitude to people's relationship to tax. For many, lifestyles are being eroded and current higher earners can't afford anything like the lifestyle previous generations had.

    All circumstances are different, your opinion on the matter smacks of the 'I'm alright Jack' train of thought.
     
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    I think the argument of lifestyles being eroded won't ever carry much weight with people who are concerned about the record numbers of children living in poverty in this country (31% of all children living in the UK)
     
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    Red Rob Well-Known Member

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    So we should all be poor?

    As mentioned, we don't need higher taxation, we need investment and growth. Higher taxation on middle earners isn't going to drag a third of the country out of poverty, not by a long shot.
     
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    So are the Greens a left wing party with green leanings, or a green party with left wing leanings?

    Is there space on the left for Polanski's Greens and the Sultanas?
     
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    No but it's all relative. Investment and growth won't fix our public services if it follows previous patterns of upping the income and profits at the top and relying on trickle down b*llocks. We've just had 4 years of the Tories trying that and all that achieved was putting record levels of people in poverty and, as you point out, eroding middle class income. Logically that means the top 5% has their lifestyles eroded during that time too right?

    We need to take on the top 5%, but since noone is willing to, it's unfortunate that the tax burden ends up sitting with the middle classes. The working class are already at breaking point. £5 a week on £55k per year that the Greens are proposing is hardly catastrophic erosion compared to what has happened over the last decade or so.
     
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    Good for you. Now try and live up to that mantra..
     

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