Ben Williams again

Discussion in 'Bulletin Board' started by troff, Jul 4, 2020.

  1. troff

    troff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2009
    Messages:
    10,794
    Likes Received:
    15,075
    Location:
    donny
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    The guy can’t defend from a set piece - this could be a cricket score
     
  2. pompey_red

    pompey_red Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2005
    Messages:
    13,547
    Likes Received:
    9,594
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Fareham
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    ive fixed it for you!
     
    leeupo likes this.
  3. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2016
    Messages:
    17,785
    Likes Received:
    20,256
    Occupation:
    Retired, full time grandad.
    Location:
    Mapp.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    No excuses with the score. But watch the player impede Williams as he tried to chase the scorer down. Definite foul.
     
    George likes this.
  4. troff

    troff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2009
    Messages:
    10,794
    Likes Received:
    15,075
    Location:
    donny
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I saw that but you never get those - and he’d lost the man by that point regardless. He’d got the run on him, he’d never have got to him
     
  5. ubi

    ubique_tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    4,090
    Likes Received:
    3,787
    Location:
    Barnsley
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Very limited footballer who unfortunately isn't at the level required and doesn't offer enough. The fact were in a position that he's a regular starter says it all about the standard of our squad, wouldn't get anywhere near any other championship team. Question marks have to be asked as to why he's preferred over better players sat on the bench.
     
    Geddiswasguud likes this.
  6. SuperTyke

    SuperTyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2005
    Messages:
    55,492
    Likes Received:
    29,566
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I'm not sure it does say anything about the squad as like you say he's poorer than others who sit warming the bench.
     
  7. Mid

    Mido Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2006
    Messages:
    11,960
    Likes Received:
    7,267
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    League Two at best. I’ve watched him closely from the West Stand and he’s just miles out of his depth. I can’t fault his commitment and effort but he needs getting rid of even if we go down.
     
  8. Hooky feller

    Hooky feller Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 11, 2016
    Messages:
    17,785
    Likes Received:
    20,256
    Occupation:
    Retired, full time grandad.
    Location:
    Mapp.
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Agreed. he’d got the run on him. We have to learn those tricks. Like hold on to the shirt. To be able to to keep tabs on the player and not losing sight.
     
    Connor and Redhelen like this.
  9. Dja

    Django Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2013
    Messages:
    11,990
    Likes Received:
    9,025
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    In fairness to him why was he marking Vokes for that first goal? I know Stoke are a tall side but for me Vokes was the biggest threat aerially in that Stoke side & Williams certainly isn’t our best aerially
     
    Brush, redrum, Connor and 2 others like this.
  10. sadbrewer

    sadbrewer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2006
    Messages:
    10,049
    Likes Received:
    5,083
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Yes I noticed that, holding Williams back cleared the path nicely for the shot.
     
  11. Men

    Menai Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    10,723
    Likes Received:
    7,452
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Earth
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Because we don't mark man for man. It's zonal marking.
     
    Connor likes this.
  12. red

    redrum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2013
    Messages:
    25,562
    Likes Received:
    18,884
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)

    Looked like William's was trying to mark a man but lost him for the 1st two corners which lead to conceding.
     
  13. dreamboy3000

    dreamboy3000 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2005
    Messages:
    59,286
    Likes Received:
    25,994
    Location:
    DB3K Towers
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    He was at the fault for the first goal by allowing a free header with his pathetic attempt to jump to challenge for the ball. The second goal was the fault of Andersen, but he wasn't close enough to the scorer to block a tap in. The third goal again his fault not concentrating and losing his man for an easy goal.

    In one way or another he was involved in the first three we conceded. Thankfully he wasn't on the pitch for the 4th.
     
  14. Skinner

    Skinner Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 2, 2018
    Messages:
    2,800
    Likes Received:
    3,604
    Gender:
    Male
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Simple easy asessment if Williams...just watch how many of our opposition constantly target his side of the pitch..
    If they kno it from the word go why do we persist in him being first choice...cant fault the lads commitment but he's just not at this level...bt one man aint a team ...
     
    Mido and Geddiswasguud like this.
  15. Men

    Menai Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    10,723
    Likes Received:
    7,452
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Earth
    Style:
    Barnsley
    Look at the way the players set up. They stand in set positions then just try and track the nearest player. He did let him get away far too easy though - notice most other teams have hands all over players to stop runs etc - watch the highlights every stoke player gets a free run on the defender except for the one Mowatt is trying to stop for the first goal.

    The third goal we do try to get more hands on which is why Solbauer can't get past the blocker Williams spotted it but there's no way he can get around. He would have been better just left on the post. Also think Chaplin could have done better he took up a position no where near anyone and then followed a run of a stoke player outside the area which created the space for the Stoke player to have a free shot when he was stood in that exact spot a couple of seconds before.
     
  16. Mrs

    MrsHallsToffeerolls Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2007
    Messages:
    27,197
    Likes Received:
    5,771
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    Solbauer was old manned for the third and took out too easily but when the ball was struck they had a bloke offside in front of Walton who made a play for the ball.
     
  17. gaz

    gaz97 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2016
    Messages:
    3,400
    Likes Received:
    4,138
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    I know it seems old school these days but putting a man on each post would have prevented two goals yesterday.
     
    Farnham_Red and onemickybutler like this.
  18. Men

    Menai Tyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    10,723
    Likes Received:
    7,452
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Earth
    Style:
    Barnsley
    The ref also should have given a foul for a blatant push on Solbauer that lead to the corner being given which they scored from.

    He does struggle with physical players up against him at the moment - just needs to learn some more dark arts himself.
     
  19. MexboroughTyke

    MexboroughTyke Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2007
    Messages:
    9,545
    Likes Received:
    3,892
    Style:
    Barnsley Dark
    He’s had a couple of decent games recently, but looked back to his usual self against Stoke.

    I’ve said it a few times, he reminds me of George Smith. Young, blonde haired full-back with absolutely zero positional sense or awareness, and struggles with the ball at his feet. Loads of fans like him (like they did Smith) because he gets ‘stuck in’.
     
  20. The Ted

    The Ted Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2011
    Messages:
    864
    Likes Received:
    491
    Style:
    Barnsley (full width)
    This in spades. Exactly what I was saying Saturday. No coincidence that Smith is playing in the lower leagues now.

    Both try really hard and like a tackle but that doesn’t make you good enough for League football.
     
    Geddiswasguud likes this.

Share This Page