Daveys striker signings !!

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  1. Gyp

    Gyp New Member

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    Thing is getting strikers who are going to get goals is a lot more difficult than people on this board seem to realise.

    I have some sympathy with the signings Davey made.

    Odejayi certainly has the physical ability and stature to act as a quality strong man to hold up the ball for a faster player to play off. Obviously everyone can see that he is not doing this at the minute but I cant see how Davey would have been able to forsee this without taking a gamble on him. And no matter what people say 200k is cheap and if it had paid off then everyone would be ecstatic.

    Mostto is a player with international experience who has a proven track record of scoring in the top flight of a South American league. It is a massive culture shock to move half way accross the world and I still think he needs more time to get used to the English game and how we play. Looking at him I think sometimes he expects more intelligent balls to be played through to him. OK so he should be adjusting to the game by now but I think we will see more from him from now till the end of the season.

    Chsitiansen is a player who once again has the physical presence but has obviously got personal problems with Davey for whatever reason. Again Davey could not have forseen this.

    And to all the people on the board who think Macken is the answer to all our goalscoring prayers just have a read through the comments their fans have posted on their bbs. Seem familiar???
     
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    Davey seems to be a bit of a "hard liner" - so I'm sure these "personality clashes" come with the territory. Christensen isn't the only one who has fallen foul of him.
     
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    GYP, I think there are some issues with part of your post. You imply there might be problems between Christianson and Davey and I agree to some extent , there just might be. The biggest problem however, and it's pure conjecture , appears to be the personality type which Davey posess's. I.E. if his decisions are challenged in anyway you will be got rid of and will not play for the club again. Suggesting that he conducts himself in an autocratic manner. Arrogance comes to mind . (blagger) (blagger) (blagger) (blagger) (blagger) (blagger) (blagger) (blagger) (blagger) (blagger)
     
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    "I have some sympathy with the signings Davey made"

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    I thought the idea at the at of last season was to improve the strikeforce, not duplicate it, Errrr no sorry, we had more goals from the ones that wanted replacing.
     
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    One major problem FOR our strikers

    We don't create chances, not good ones. How many times has Mostto or Ferenczi had 2 or 3 chances in a game. We have a proven header of the ball with Ferenczi and we don't cross the ball to him. Mostto seems to be a striker than likes the ball in front of him on the floor and we don't supply the passes. I've said it before but Anderson in the middle of the park would make Mostto a better player.
     
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    RE: One major problem FOR our strikers

    Agree with that, but why does Davey make it so complicated when we are playing away from home. Does he think we are in a comfort zone, and he wants to experiment with his formations or his he **** scared of the opposition, and that is going through the team like diarrhoea. Thank goodness we have three other teams has bad as us at the present time.
     
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    When Mostto was on the pitch withDa Silva that didnt happen nt
     
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    Euroman Well-Known Member

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    RE: One major problem for our strikers

    <font size="2">Under Ritchie we played an all out attacking game, until we ran out of steam in the second half, and created lots of chances w</font><font size="2">hich the strike force of Richards and Hayes were unable to convert into goals.At one point in the season we had more strikes on goal than any other team.</font></p>

    <font size="2">The main difference then was that we had two of the best midfield players in the league getting ball after ball into the box. We don't have that now.
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    <font size="2">McIndoe left to play for a bigger club and sadly Davaney has lost form and is not playing to the standard we know he is capable of. </font></p>

    <font size="2">Until the midfield start to get the ball into the forwards they will struggle to score goals.
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    madmark62 Well-Known Member

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    So are you saying

    we were better with Ritchie way of playing or Daveys way?
     
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    RE: So are you saying

    we would be better playing Ritchies way with these players, ritchies problem was his lack of activity in the transfer market
     
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    2 of the players here now would have been here last season if

    Ritchie had been given the money for wages.
    Foster and JCR.
    plus he wanted Shawcross from Man Utd. now at Stoke
     
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    pfff

    Know that for a fact do you?
     
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    shawcross chose a loan to stoke over us last season-

    Nothing to do with wages as thet would've been paid the same. It was probably due to the fact that we were struggling and Stoke weren't
     
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    Yes

    did you?

    I have been and talked to Ritchie, not just slagged him off. but that would not intrest you would it, all you want to hear is how bad Ritchie was. He was not a great manager , but not half as bad as he has bee portrayed.
     
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    I suppose I am implying there might be personal problems between Davey and Christiansen. Thats the only reason I can think of as to why he is not giving him a chance.

    Maybe Davey is a bit arrogant. Who knows. Trouble is even he wont know who he might fall out with until it happens.
     
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    RE: So are you saying

    I'm saying that under AR the midfield were getting the ball into the strikers much more than we do now. Richards and Hayes still had a poor conversion rate considering the number of chances created.</p>

    We couldn't play the way we did under AR because we don't have a McIndoe or an in form Devaney to feed the strikers.</p>

    I think much of our problem is that Howards passing has been poor. The fact that Da Silva isn't playing at the side of him shouldn't affect the quality of his passing.
    </p>

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    Thing is though

    .you dont know if its true at all but it does not seem to stop you spouting it as factual.

    AR is history, bitter sweet.
     
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    Correct about Hayes and Richards

    Why is Devaney so bad this year? He seems to be a different player now.

    Apart from JCR, we have played the same midfield as last year for a fair few games since Da Silva went back and they look *****. Why cant we get the ball in to the forwards this season , there has to be a reason.
     
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    Euroman Well-Known Member

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    RE: Correct about Hayes and Richards

    Well from what I have seen Disco has lost some sharpness over the first five yards.</p>

    He use to dribble the ball at pace up to a defender and then the brakes would go on and he would slow down almost to a stop, then he would skip past and either get a cross in or take the ball into the box.
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    One thought I have just had is that he may be trying to dribble like JCR rather than play his natural game.
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    Thing is though

    I can have a better iformed opinion if I actually take the troble to go and see for myself.
    Like J. Coachman did last season. It allows you to get things from the horse mouth not second hand with bits added on.
    He also said that he would have signed Danny Cadermateri so that shows how much of a pillock he could be.
     

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