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    Extremely Northern Well-Known Member

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    He's right about the rents. 60% of my take home went on London rent from a half decent job at V&A, 10% went on getting to work.

    That fella is financial editor of the Guardian. Katherine Viner is the big editor, she's definitely a remainer. :D
     
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    Soz. 'A' Guardian editor...


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    Well he'll be wasting his vote then, if he 's voting out to stop EU citizens from entering the U.K.
    If the U.K. votes to "leave" then it will need to renegotiate its trade deal with remaining 27 members of the EU. One of the conditions of having free access to the Common Market (as it used to be called) is free movement of people. Norway and Switzerland have agreed to free movement of people as a condition of being able to trade freely within Europe (except Switzerland is not allowed to sell services to the EU). 48% of the U.K.'s exports go to the EU (and the largest element of that is services, not goods). Any deal the U.K. agrees with the EU has to be approved by every government within the EU (27). Does anybody seriously think that the U.K., having rejected membership of EU, is going to be welcomed back on even better terms than before ? Many of the 27 countries who need to agree - unanimously - are the countries where the "EU immigrants" come from. They aren't going to let the U.K. continue on the same terms as before without agreeing to freedom of movement.
    The alternative is that the U.K. has tarifs placed on the sales it makes to the EU, making its products/services less attractive. This will affect the U.K. economy negatively. In any case the remaining EU countries will be free, without the U.K. being able to oppose it, to introduce taxes on financial transactions (as France suggested a year or two ago, but was canned because of U.K. opposition). This will affect all the U.K. financial services to the EU because the U.K.'s services will have to be taxed to meet EU regulations (which have to be complied with to trade with the EU). This will, again adversely affect, the biggest part of the U.K economy.
    The "Leave" campaign leadership have been totally dishonest in not describing/forming any kind of policy as to how they will deal with these very real issues. They waffle on about concepts such as "democracy" and play the "immigrants undercutting you" card without any explanation of how they will try to counteract or get round the issues described above. They have no plan that I've heard of, other than vague ramblings about "closer ties to the rest of the world". Even Obama told them we would be at the back of the queue to negotiate trade deals with the USA. We'd also be behind the EU in the queue of nations wanting to sign trade deals with China, Brazil and other fast growing economies- because the EU is so much bigger than the U.K.
    Basically the Johnson, Farage etc have no meaningful plan of how to cope with the economic fall out of a "leave". "Democracy" doesn't put bread on the table.
     
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    THIS. Triple underlined and in capital letters.
     
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    Brexit is the start of a journey. Towards a more democratic society and being able to trade with the world , rather than 27 geographically close states, with whom our exports are reducing anyway. There'll be more food on more tables then.

    http://www.adamsmith.org/the-liberal-case-for-leave



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    I have to say the lies of the remain campaign. The importing of Trump politics and the vicious racism/anti immigration bile have made my mind up for me. Cheers Boris/Nige/Gove. I still have no facts but I know liars when I see them. In fact to run a campaign with a bus advertising your lie in the background is amusing.

    The enemies of the working class do want Brexit so they can remove employment rights and make more money. Anyone who doubts this listen to speeches by Pritti Patel business minister.
     
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    The leave arguement that we can negotiate a better deal if we come out of the union is so far from the truth that it is laughable.

    A simple example.

    I pay membership to a golf club at say £35/month and I get to use the course at £5 a round.

    I leave, save my membership fee and then expect that I can pay £4 per round.

    Just not going to happen.
     

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