"Socialism is nothing personal: it is not concerned with individuals and their origins, but rather with a system that concentrates wealth and power in so few hands. It advocates a society run on the basis of people's needs, rather than profit for a small elite. The daughter of a dinner lady or the son of an aristocrat should be equally able to embrace this vision. If Queen Elizabeth wishes to abdicate and join the fight against this unjust society, then comrade Liz would be welcome on the picket lines." http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...vy-socialist-worker-article-polar-bear-attack
socialism is personal to many left wingers tho',certainly until a few of them earn a decent crust,then all of a sudden it isnt.
I concur; when I heard him speak I said to my good lady 'his dad'll be turning in his grave.............if he's buried that is.....
It was a fantastic speech. I just hope Labour keep Corbyn as their leader though. Hilary Benn has the makings of a great leader as compared to Corbyn who is utterly useless.
You'd have thought Benn would have learnt after voting to invade Iraq. But no, he's just another sheep in wolfs clothing. Bringing more misery and hatred and more people wanting to do us harm. I see 3 Barnsley MP's voted for along with another in Wakefield and Yvette Cooper in Pontefract. What a sorry set of ****ing. Shame on them all.
Brilliant speech by Benn. Well pleased with the outcome, and contrary to the extreme lefties on here, I don't believe in appeasement.
Unfortunately that's about the level of debate this decision has been made on, not any informed or reasoned discussion. You're either a terrorist sympathiser or a warmonger. Its hugely complex, and there are plenty of right wing people who believe the action voted for is completely wrong I would add.
Full speech. [video=youtube;m_dRCzd19Uc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_dRCzd19Uc[/video] Mr Cob-on doesn't look too chuffed at 13min 50secs
That's a few threads you've mentioned people appeasing daesh .I suggest you look up the meaning of appeasement . Not one mp has suggested appeasing them, just different strategies of dealing with them. Still if it makes you think your clever or using it to bash anti fascist left wingers ,carry on
No it isn't its an ideology which in its self it first class However, it fails because when youve spent all the money you've nothing left
Socialism is only allowed to fail once whilst constantly being attacked before the vultures pounce. Capitalism fails many times and is excused time and time again.