Looking forward to tomorrow

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  1. Hem

    Hemsworth Tyke Well-Known Member

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    First game back in the championship and i'd not want to be anywhere else at 3PM than Oakwell.

    It's going to be tough but that's the championship isn't it. I think tomorrow will be unlike anything else we've seen for a long time. Derby will look to have the ball and that's how i'd expect it to be. I don't think Barnsley should look to change this either if i'm honest.

    People will disagree with me for sure but having watched the team both at Ipswich and Oakwell on Tuesday night i'd like to see PH go a bit different.

    I was really impressed with Bee on Tuesday night. Think he looked really good and I'd imagine only took off because of the injury he picked up against Hull a couple of week earlier. So that's the first change i'd make. You can't keep someone with that amount of ability out of the team. Big 6 months for James too. With the recent transfer of John Stones and the good pre season of Mason Holgate it's a good time for a former Academy right back to impress. Although unlike the two mentioned hes already turned down moves away from oakwell a couple of years ago or so.

    Now the other change I would think about making would be Kent for Moncur although i'd play them in the same position. I Feel Kent would be best played centrally where the tricks cause more danger but have more risk. It's also somewhere he impressed in pre season for Liverpool. I'd understand if they put moncur in but I feel this game would be a great chance for Ryan kent to impress and get his Barnsley loan spell off the line.

    I still think Barnsley need a central midfielder. Someone that can defend and keep the game moving. The move to bring in Scowen's weakened Barnsley defensively for me but also made Hourihane move back 10/20 yards at times to get the attacks moving.

    So
    ----------Davies
    Bree Roberts Mawson White
    ------Scowen Hourihane
    ---Watkins Kent Hammill
    ------------Bradshaw

    Still think we are missing a centre back, central midfielder (mentioned above), and allround striker. 6ft 2, strong, very quick Dominic Solanke........ type.
     
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    Not really related to your post a great deal but what's your opinion on hammill hemsy?
     
  3. Hem

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    He frustrates like hell Supertyke.

    It's hard because with the same move he could score the winner or lose the ball and they go and counter attack and score. at 28 you'd expect him to play the % and pass more when two's on him. Make the other team think he's not the threat anymore and then attack. Also he needs to learn how to defend more.

    What's worst with him without the ball for me is. This 50% of the job. He get's back and covers. White will go inside then he switches off. That can be more costly for the team than him not doing it at all in a strange way. White stays out wide and okay we are short on the cut back the major threat outwides covered and one of the centre mid's watch for the cut back.
     
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    The problem with your formation is that Bradshaw, like Winnall, looks a poor lone striker.


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  5. Hem

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    Disagree. Think he's looked good. Actually thought he looked worse with Watkins because they both looked to do the same thing.

    He needs the link and unlike Winnall doesn't want to be the link too much. It's back to goal or in behind the defence. Winnall like to come deep, get the ball in the pocket between defence and midfield and dictate play. The problem for Sam was when he played upfront there was no player to make the runs behind and push the defence back. Now for all you lot who say I hate Winnall read that. I don't hate him at all.

    Also Bradshaw's a 4231 player. Played well with Sawyer an attacking midfield
     
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    I think Bradshaw looked much better when his main focus was finding space in the box to get chances like he did against Ipswich and Hull.

    On Tuesday night his poaching game was stifled as he had a much greater focus on dropping deep to bring Moncur and the wingers into play.


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  7. Hem

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    Sometimes he's got to play for the team. He'll not always get the chances. The team got chances though which is good Chris.

    In the championship the game styles will be more like Ipswich and Hull than Northampton. No team in the championship will be happy with a point at Oakwell. Teams will take risks.

    He needs to put them away though.
     
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    We played 4-4-2 against Hull and Ipswich and should have won both games scoring 2 goals.

    I didn't think we looked fluid at all against Northampton until we went 4-4-2.

    Moncur stifled our play as he treat the ball like a hot potato. He passed it backwards almost everytime only taking one or two touches.


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    Again I read your post & completely disagree.

    The main positive out of Tuesday for me was Hourihane & Scowen's partnership & I can't see anything in Kent's game that suggest he'd be suited to a no. 10 role. Rather see him wide & Watkins up top with Bradshaw
     
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    thought second half against Hull he was good.

    Moncur needs time. We'll not get another Northampton game at Oakwell I don't think or the second half at least. I thought Barnsley played really well in the first half on Tuesday night. That own goal gave them something to sit on and that destroys the space between midfield and defence for moncur to play
     
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    apparently derby were tested few times by grimsby in the lg cup, and kayden jackson sounded like their main goal threat again!!
    the lg cup is different to the lg but im hoping this shows that derby are there to be got at, especially as its our first home game and the atmosphere will be so different to the northampton game.
     
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    We were awful playing 4-4-1-1 on Tuesday. We have no forward capable of playing as a lone striker ( I've seen Bradshaw attempt it 4 times now getting progressively worse each time). We only started moving the ball well and creating problems when we switched to 4-4-2. Can't see anything in Kent's game to suggest he would be successful in the no 10 role and Moncur was our poorest player though that might be more down to match readiness than anything else.

    Other than that though great plan.

    Agree completely about Bree. First choice all the way for me. When his final decision on the ball improves he will be a fantastic player.
     

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