On the Eduardo issue...

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  1. Poet

    Poet Well-Known Member

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    What's it going to take for the powers that be to realise, that video replays should be brought into the game? After watching the game last night, I, along with millions of others I'm sure, felt cheated out of watching what could've and should've been a good, competitive game of football. Don't get me wrong, the football that was played was highly entertaining, but as soon as Eduardo was 'felled', and the resulting penalty was duly despatched, It was effectively game over.

    For the mere 10-15 seconds that it would've taken for the referee(s) to replay the footage of the incident, and easily come to the conclusion that Eduardo had dived, we could've had a completely different game. At 2-0, Celtic were still in the game. If the referee(s) had reviewed the incident, obviously seen that Eduardo had gone down, let's say 'a little easily'; Eduardo could've been booked/sent off, and the game could've continued, with Celtic very much in the tie. If Celtic had have scored soon after, it's game on!

    I've never been too sold on the introduction of video replays, but it's getting to the stage where it needs to be introduced. It shouldn't be, but it is. The sport is turning into a mockery, and for the thousands of Celtic fans that travelled down to London last night to watch their team, as soon as that penalty was scored, their night was pretty much over. The money that is spent on football by supporters these days is ridiculous and to have all that flushed away in the space of 30 minutes, by a moment of inadequacy and knowing maliciousness, is in my opinion, disgusting. We've been seeing this type of stuff, for far too long; it has to stop.

    I'm not saying that if Eduardo's incident had been overruled, and the game had continued, that Celtic would've gone on to win, but I am saying, that at 2-0, the game was still wide open, and as soon as that incident occurred, the game was pretty much over, and for the sake of 10-15 seconds of looking at a screen (much like in Rugby League), the outcome for thousands/millions of people, could've been a lot different.
     
  2. Farnham_Red

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    I dont know

    Just look at how almost every time there is a try in rugby these days its referred the the video ref. The game would slow right down

    Maybe there is a case for introducing retrospective bans though - in the same way as can be done in theory for violent conduct missed by the ref.

    It wont happen though - FIFA's position is the ref is always right - even when he is wrong thats why violent conduct dealt with incorrectly on the field by the ref cant be dealt with.

    If the ref sees a penalty - then a penalty it is even if you could drive a bus between the diving player and the alleged foulers

    - The Eduardo one is a difficult one - from the refs angle it definitely looked a pen - it was a top quality dive - only when you got the behind the goal view could you see what really happened
     
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    I agree with the game slowing down.

    But surely, for the sake of a few minutes maximum, on decisions that are pivotal in the game, this would be a good idea? For the sake of the fans, who pay hard earned money. For the sake of the fellow professional. And for the good of the game, which in recent years, despite the rise in skill and class has fallen to an all time low, because of cheats who have failed to be reprimanded.

    Mere minutes. Nay, seconds. That's all. And in that infinitesimal timescale, major decisions can be made correctly. Who knows, if a TV replay had been in play last night, it might, just might have been Celtic that were in that hat for the Champions league proper...
     
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    I don't know why football is dragging its feet over this - the technology is there now, it is discreet, it is readily available, it can be used quickly and with minor disruption to the flow of the game. These days multi-millionaire footballers roll around on the floor pretending to be injured for longer than it takes to have a fourth official check the video to find out what happened. The game comes to a halt in most situtions when or shortly after shout for a penalty goes up anyway.

    I also think that there should be a review about the use of the video footage to punish divers and cheats after the match. The ref should be able to review the footage of the game subsequently once the match has finished - and the cheating little gets like christiano ronaldo should be given yellow cards retrospectively to encourage them to stay on their feet unless genuinely fouled.

    With the amount of money involved - as you say - you'd think there'd be more clubs demanding it by now. There is too much at stake. As a top flight referee - i would want to have it to help me out. I think the refereeing in football could learn an awful lot from the refs in rugby to be honest.
     
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    RE: I agree with the game slowing down.

    It's the getting away with it that really annoys me. When you're sat a home watching someone get away with blatent dishonesty to give themselved the edge - it's so wrong. Christiano Ronaldo winking at the bench after getting Rooney sent off? Maradona 'hand of god' (BTW - if Maradona had got sent off for that incident as he should have been I'm convinced we'd have gone through and the Argies would never have won the world cup in 1986)? There are countless other examples in big games.
     
  6. Shy Talk

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    Rugby League is a faster and more intense sport than football

    with the ball in play 90% of the time.</p>

    Video refereeing has hardly any effect at all on the flow or momentum of the game, its benefits far outweigh any disadvantages.
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  7. Anderson15

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    should do what american football does

    give them so many "challenges" per game, after that if they run out and theres a dubious decision they're fecked
     
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    And in RL they only use video replay on televised games

    The issue with football is they would have to implement through the leagues
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong

    but didn't Rooney push Ronaldo? So in what way did Ronaldo "get him sent off"?
     
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    Maybe if a challenge "fails" you would lose a substitute

    or somethig like that...
     
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    RE: Correct me if I'm wrong

    Glad you said it. Rooney was sent off for stamping on Carvalho, lost his head, again. Then he pushed Ronaldo. Rooney has to take the responsibility for that one, not Ronaldo, or the ref.
     

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