Possible keepers then...

another idea what about kasper schemical on loan?

 

Sorenson? nt

 

A cheap option could be to bring back Marlon as a stop gap. Sure Luton would listen to offers.

 

clive baker nt

 

Good shout Alnwick aye...

Hope Simon's reading

 

steve harper at newcastle??????????????

 

doubt we could get harper but we could maybe get krul

 

Paul Smith of Nottingham Forest nt

 

RE: Paul Smith of Nottingham Forest nt

Top keeper, don't think Forest would let him go and wouldn't be cheap if they did.

 

Be afraid

...be very afraid. Don't even mention his name or it may come true.

We signed him from Millwall the year after he was named best keeper in the division and, to be fair, what I'd seen of him (obviously mostly in the games we played them) he looked very decent. I was made up when he signed.

Then all my nightmares came true at once, he's a shocker. A big bloke who won't leave his line unless you hold a gun to him and when he does, it's invariably at the wrong moment and before you can say "goal" it's in the net. He's about 6'4" and jumps to 6'2" and kick? Don't even go there. At least 2 gaffs per game.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, was delighted when he left and dumbfounded that he'd gone to the Premiership. Will say that initially he did well at Fulham - and then the real, error-strewn Tony Warner re-appeared.

I'd rather have Steve McPhail in goals. Come to think of it I'd rather Peter Ridsdale in goals!

 

RE: No thanks,

I had my doubts about Schmeichel when he joined us, but after seeing him I've got to say I'd have him back in a shot, no problem.

 

Oh Dear.......? nt

 

RE: Oh Dear.......? nt

I wouldn't worry about it, the welsh one knows about as much as DB2K and Drag-on, he slated McPhail when he fisrt signed and still thinks Ridsdale went there for footballing reasons.

 

RE: Oh Dear.......? nt

baaaaa.

 

Lol...not too worried

Cant see him not being an improvement on our other options.

A bit concerned about the keeper for anfield though!

 

been watching African nations cup ,Tunisian goalkeeper looks OK, up to now. on bbc3 Sunday -quarter finals.

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Scouting for African talent
Interview: Chelsea's Frank Arnesen
Interview: Newcastle first-team coach Steve Round
Les Reed on African football
Ghana, 20 January - 10 February

Debate: How important has Africa become in world football?


* Club survey
* Why Africa?
* Youth lessons


By David Ornstein and John Sinnott

Emmanuel Eboue
Eboue trained at Jean-Parc Guillou's Abidjan football academy

At the end of the 19th Century, European countries, in what became known as the scramble for Africa, sought to carve up the continent between them.

But in 2008 the scramble is of an altogether different nature - to secure the continent's finest footballing talent.

The regard in which African players are now held by Premier League clubs is plain for all to see.

When Mali hosted the Africa Cup of Nations in 2002, England's top flight was stripped of just eight players.

Fast forward to the 2008 edition in Ghana and that figure has risen to a staggering 35.

And, despite many a manager's criticism of the tournament's mid-season scheduling, it appears likely that the trend will only continue to grow.

BBC Sport understands that all bar five Premier League clubs have sent scouts to the Nations Cup, not only to spot potential recruits for the here and now but, more importantly, for the future.


Arsenal: Kolo Toure, Emmanuel Eboue, Alexandre Song
Birmingham: Richard Kingson, Mehdi Nafti, Radhi Jaidi
Blackburn: Aaron Mokoena
Bolton: El-Hadji Diouf, Abdoulaye Meite
Chelsea: John Obi Mikel, Didier Drogba and Saloman Kalou, Michael Essien
Everton: Joseph Yobo, Ayegbeni Yakubu, Steven Pienaar
Fulham: Diomansy Kamara
Liverpool: Momo Sissoko
Manchester United: Manucho
Middlesbrough: Mohamed Shawky
Newcastle: Obafemi Martins, Geremi, Abdoulaye Faye, Habib Beye
Portsmouth: Papa Bouba Diop, Nwankwo Kanu, John Utaka, Sulley Muntari
Reading: Andre Bikey, Emerse Fae, Ibrahima Sonko
Sunderland: Dickson Etuhu
Tottenham: Didier Zokora
West Ham: John Paintsil, Henri Camara

"We already know the players and I don't think any clubs of our calibre go there to sign a player - they should know who they want a long time before," said Chelsea's chief scout and head of youth development Frank Arnesen. "We are monitoring for the future."

Chelsea's four players competing at the Nations Cup - Didier Drogba, Michael Essien, Salomon Kalou and Jon Mikel Obi - were purchased from other European clubs at a total cost of more than £50m.

Part of Arnesen's job is to ensure the club secure the best possible talent at the best possible price.

If a club can identify and buy talent before African players make their name in the major European leagues, there are huge savings to be made.

But even if they have made a name for themselves, BBC Sport found a widespread belief in the Premier League that African players offer excellent value for money.

"Look at Habib Beye, who we signed from Marseille for £2m," said Newcastle first-team coach Steve Round.

"For a full international of his pedigree and the amount of games he has played in Europe and the Champions League, to get an English player of the same pedigree could cost you in the region of £8m-10m."

Just as important as the financial advantages are the physical and technical perks.

"One of the most significant changes to the Premier League over the past five years is how much the high intensity output has improved - it has gone up about 2.5km in the last five years which is a colossal amount," added Round.


African boys playing football
When you have millions of kids playing street football all day long, players will come through, exactly like in Brazil

Tottenham sporting director Damien Comolli

"That is partly due to better training methods and better athletes being produced but also because of the influx of a lot of these African players who, physically, are very good."

Tord Grip, a member of the Manchester City coaching staff under Sven-Goran Eriksson, added: "They seem to be well-suited to the style of play in the Premier League.

"African players are strong, athletic and good technically. You also find that they are very motivated, because they have come from a difficult and poor background."

Arnesen insists individuals from any background can make it to the top, but the Dane concedes the amount of football played by Africans as they grow up is key to their development, a point echoed by Damien Comolli.

"When you go to any country in Africa, people, especially kids, play football from eight in the morning until late at night," said Tottenham's sporting director.

"When you have millions of kids playing street football all day long, players will come through, exactly like in Brazil."

Scouting is a time-consuming and expensive business and BBC Sport has learned that one major Premier League club's scouting wage bill runs close to £1m.

If monitoring players in Europe is a difficult logistical exercise it is even harder in Africa, given the sheer size of the continent - Nigeria's population alone is more than 130 million.

Arsenal, who have former player Gilles Grimandi scouting for them in Ghana, have had an advantage over many of their Premier League rivals because of manager Arsene Wenger's close relationship with compatriot Jean-Marc Guillou.


606: DEBATE
African lessons for England coach Fabio Capello

As well as giving Wenger his break in management - the two worked together at Cannes - Guillou helped set up an academy in the Ivory Coast, run in co-operation with the local team ASEC of Abidjan.

Graduates of that Academy include Arsenal's Kolo Toure and Emmanuel Eboue, Chelsea's Kalou, and half the Ivory Coast 2006 World Cup squad.

"They are now well-coached because some of them are coming through various coaching systems or development centres that are producing quality players now," said Wigan assistant manager Eric Black.

"The indiscipline that was there maybe 10 years ago is disappearing. They're being coached by European coaches who are in Africa, or when they are at clubs in Europe."

With players from just four Premier League clubs - Derby, Aston Villa and Manchester City and Wigan - not present in Ghana and the country awash with their scouts, England needs little convincing of Africa's worth.

Additional reporting by Simon Austin, Russell

 

so these are just your ideas then...not Simons

Walker.... AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

RE: so these are just your ideas then...not Simons

when all the scouts from the premier league are watching and have obtained some decent players ( for a knockdown price)in the past it could make sense to look ,from the African continent.