RE: Given a choice between a League 2 unproven novice manager and how did the experienced ones fair? Mel Machin, Paul Hart, etc? I agree, an experienced manager would be a safer option, I'm just objecting to people writing off a young manager before he's even been appointed.
I'd be surprised and disappointed if that were the case. Cryne admits himself that he's no football man and I have my doubts over the others ability to run the club. The more I think about it, the more sense there is in appointing an experienced manager. We're lacking the contacts/knowledge that we've had on the board in the past and Davey was very much learning the ropes. Seems like a steady hand is badly needed. But I guess that's not the official line. Young and enthusiastic....hooray. We've been here before though, I gave Parkin a standing ovation at the AGM. He was as young and enthusiastic as they come.
Robins would not be as big a gamble as Davey was After all, he has already experienced management at the sharp-end with Rotherham and it can't get much sharper than points deduction, no ground and administration - and he has succeeded against those odds. More than that, he has been shown to be a keen judge of a player (especially bargain basement ones like Le Fondre and Reid) and has a seeming gift of motivation. He has done all of this against all odds, but perhaps because of those odds. He has started to shape his management style on the basis of front-line experience. I would be proud if the Reds put up performances such as the Millers did against Derby and West Brom - passion, organisation and belief - some of the things of which we have been a bit short over recent months. I can feel for Davey - he came with all the badges, but not having cut his teeth on front-line experience in lower leagues. He had some remarkable successes. It might have been kinder for his overall career prospects had he had some lower league experience of management before stepping up. Badges are not necessarily a substitute for hands-on experience. For all those reasons, if it were to be Robins, he has shown the attributes and has already been part-moulded on the (very hot) anvil of front-line experience at Rotherham. Just looking at the comments from some of the players following Davey's departure - I can empathise both with Davey and the players - but, doesn't it sound as if it had all become a little too cosy and comfortable and inward-looking? I hope the new man will succeed with these players and that these players (whom I regard highly in spite of recent results) desperately want him to succeed, because his success is also their career success, if no other reason. I think that Davey has considerable qualities as a coach, analyst and assessor of players' strengths. It is probably better in life to be happy and filfilled doing something at which you are really good, than stressing yourself trying to do something you can just about handle, even if it were to mean less income. In a difficult job market and with a family to think of, I wish him every success in the short and long-term..... and thanks for the best of the memories!
The Andrex puppy is young and enthusiastic.</p> To be honest I couldn't care less as long as they're good - I just think folk from all areas, club, bbs, trust etc have got their knickers in a twist thinking that 'the fans' should have some sort of say in appointing a nice friendly sort who is media savvy. </p> As long as whoever is appointed gets the job because they are the best that we could possibly get given the usual caveats regarding wages blah blah then we should all get behind him and the club. It's my suspicion, maybe being overly cynical that we'll appoint the 'easiest' candidate. ie I don't think a manager with Dave Basset's character would get anywhere near. </p>
Just to be pedantic for a moment Mad Mel Machin was before Wilson. I agree with what ever else you put, the new manager, whoever that may be, needs to made welcome. He also needs to be a person that the fans can relate to, not aloof and dismissive. I know that Davey tried hard and did his best, but he was a PR nightmare , a few exceptions given.
Is that Mad Mel who did well to keep us up in 1990 and got us to within a gnats of the playoffs in 1991 ?</p> People seem to remember the end of his tenure, which was poor, rather than the good things he did.</p>
RE: I thought he did a decent job at BFC. Yes I know he was before Wilson, and I know he did an ok job keeping us up ... my point being that yes you can argue that young unproven managers are less successful - but all the "experienced" ones had to start somewhere. I'd sooner see us push the boat out & get someone in like Coppell, but in 18 months time who knows where we'd be with either? It's alot to do with luck (personalities etc), as well as to do with ability, experience etc. and as long as Oddjob gets a start, eh? Que Sera Sera (hidebehindsofa)
ridiculous statement fired far too sensible! Beggars belief that people are still arguing when they have absolutely no idea if we can afford the candidates they want or if they actually want the bloody job.Whoever gets the job should be given wholehearted support and every chance to succed before the moaners even get started. Like you say who can tell what any manager will do, Wilson left us with a glowing CV and the fell flat on his face and I bet there would be many a Derby fan having a laugh at how much some want Jewell!
